<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Hi Josiah,</font><div dir="auto"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="arial, sans-serif">You're right! </font></div><div dir="auto"><h1 style="line-height:30px;margin:10px 0px;letter-spacing:-0.2px"><font face="arial, sans-serif" style="font-weight:normal" size="2"><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/11/signal-advance-jumps-another-438percent-after-elon-musk-fueled-buying-frenzy.html" target="_blank">Elon Musk said 'use Signal,' and confused investors sent the wrong stock up 438% on Monday</a></font></h1></div><div dir="auto"><font face="arial, sans-serif">"<span style="color:rgb(23,23,23)">Signal Advance, which reported receiving no revenue in 2015 and 2016, is now worth more than $3 billion."</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(23,23,23)"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(23,23,23)"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Apparently this also happened with Zoom a couple of years ago. "... people bought shares of Zoom Technologies, whose ticker symbol was ZOOM but was not the trendy video-calling service Zoom Video Communications, which trades under the symbol ZM. Last year the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission stopped trading of Zoom Technologies, partly because of confusion over its connection with Zoom Video."</font></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(23,23,23)"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(23,23,23)"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 12:59 Josiah Mugambi via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.signaladvance.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Signal Advance Inc</a> ( whose stock went x11) has no relation with the <a href="https://signal.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Signal</a> messaging platform.<div><br></div><div>As this is a tech policy group, this may be a useful read (less so for a non tech person):</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://medium.com/swlh/whatsapp-doesnt-read-your-messages-it-doesn-t-need-to-7ce0ec2846f9" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://medium.com/swlh/whatsapp-doesnt-read-your-messages-it-doesn-t-need-to-7ce0ec2846f9</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>excerpt:</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="background-color:rgba(26,137,23,0.1);color:rgb(41,41,41);font-family:charter,Georgia,Cambria,"Times New Roman",Times,serif;font-size:18px;letter-spacing:-0.054px">End to end encryption is more about security than privacy. We are protected against unknown actors but have no control over what known actors will do."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(26,137,23,0.1);color:rgb(41,41,41);font-family:charter,Georgia,Cambria,"Times New Roman",Times,serif;font-size:18px;letter-spacing:-0.054px"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(26,137,23,0.1);color:rgb(41,41,41);font-family:charter,Georgia,Cambria,"Times New Roman",Times,serif;font-size:18px;letter-spacing:-0.054px"><br></span></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:04 AM Rawgee l.k via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">My take it could be more of under table business trade agreement between Whatsapp and Signal.<div dir="auto">After the announcement from Elon Musk [coincidentally the world's richest man] for guys to move to signal app the stock jumped to 1100%.</div><div dir="auto">Screenshot on the trade app overview.</div><div dir="auto">Intresting times both for data privacy and financial services.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 00:39 Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Those new terms from Facebook/WhatsApp are terrible. Bad for privacy. <div><br></div><div>To illustrate how good laws and punitive fines protect citizens, Facebook has different rules for Europe. Because of GDPR, these new changes do not appear in the European version of the updated terms and conditions. Facebook later confirmed that the rules will not apply in the EU, EEA, or the UK. <a href="https://digit.fyi/facebook-to-access-whatsapp-user-data-except-in-europe/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://digit.fyi/facebook-to-access-whatsapp-user-data-except-in-europe/</a></div><div><div><br></div><div>It seems the rest of the world does not matter, even with Data Protection laws available in countries like Kenya. Perhaps it is contempt from Facebook for smaller jurisdictions (What will you do? attitude. - Mtado?). This would be a good intray for the new Kenyan Data Commissioner.</div><div><br></div><div>My take is that the new rules will not hurt WhatsApp in the long run because of the phenomenon called Network Effect (the value or utility a user derives from a good or service depends on the number of users of compatible products) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect</a></div><div><br></div><div>Those Church groups, Estate groups, Former school groups, investment groups, ... are not moving to Signal or Telegram. A few techie groups and privacy-oriented groups may move, but my prediction is those are the exceptions.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva</a></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 22:31, David Indeje via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Listers,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think all apps have been sharing our data. It is only that Facebook has gone public, after all it also owns Instagram. What if it buys Signal for the Signalers? </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 8:23 PM John Kariuki via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:1em" id="m_-3122783223323434588m_6371296555574778366m_-4589678366997799347m_5912808622048959918m_-1359294420482406686gmail-m_-7458323285237651053m_5601984925369827526m_-6025013269781380246gmail-m_3905764799056682425m_-7514933473454955504yMail_cursorElementTracker_1610385418670">Listers</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:1em" id="m_-3122783223323434588m_6371296555574778366m_-4589678366997799347m_5912808622048959918m_-1359294420482406686gmail-m_-7458323285237651053m_5601984925369827526m_-6025013269781380246gmail-m_3905764799056682425m_-7514933473454955504yMail_cursorElementTracker_1610385244638">What are your thoughts on the new terms of service and privacy on What's Up? 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