<div dir="auto">My take it could be more of under table business trade agreement between Whatsapp and Signal.<div dir="auto">After the announcement from Elon Musk [coincidentally the world's richest man] for guys to move to signal app the stock jumped to 1100%.</div><div dir="auto">Screenshot on the trade app overview.</div><div dir="auto">Intresting times both for data privacy and financial services.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 00:39 Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Those new terms from Facebook/WhatsApp are terrible. Bad for privacy. <div><br></div><div>To illustrate how good laws and punitive fines protect citizens, Facebook has different rules for Europe. Because of GDPR, these new changes do not appear in the European version of the updated terms and conditions. Facebook later confirmed that the rules will not apply in the EU, EEA, or the UK. <a href="https://digit.fyi/facebook-to-access-whatsapp-user-data-except-in-europe/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://digit.fyi/facebook-to-access-whatsapp-user-data-except-in-europe/</a></div><div><div><br></div><div>It seems the rest of the world does not matter, even with Data Protection laws available in countries like Kenya. Perhaps it is contempt from Facebook for smaller jurisdictions (What will you do? attitude. - Mtado?). This would be a good intray for the new Kenyan Data Commissioner.</div><div><br></div><div>My take is that the new rules will not hurt WhatsApp in the long run because of the phenomenon called Network Effect (the value or utility a user derives from a good or service depends on the number of users of compatible products) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect</a></div><div><br></div><div>Those Church groups, Estate groups, Former school groups, investment groups, ... are not moving to Signal or Telegram. A few techie groups and privacy-oriented groups may move, but my prediction is those are the exceptions.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva</a></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 22:31, David Indeje via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Listers,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think all apps have been sharing our data. It is only that Facebook has gone public, after all it also owns Instagram. What if it buys Signal for the Signalers? </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 8:23 PM John Kariuki via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:1em" id="m_5601984925369827526m_-6025013269781380246gmail-m_3905764799056682425m_-7514933473454955504yMail_cursorElementTracker_1610385418670">Listers</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:1em" id="m_5601984925369827526m_-6025013269781380246gmail-m_3905764799056682425m_-7514933473454955504yMail_cursorElementTracker_1610385244638">What are your thoughts on the new terms of service and privacy on What's Up? Facebook plans to share What's Up data with other Facebook products starting from 8th February 2021.</span></p><br><div id="m_5601984925369827526m_-6025013269781380246gmail-m_3905764799056682425m_-7514933473454955504ymail_android_signature"><a id="m_5601984925369827526m_-6025013269781380246gmail-m_3905764799056682425m_-7514933473454955504ymail_android_signature_link" href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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