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<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Responding to Walu's question,</div><div dir="auto">I think the Kenyan government still has not put proper legal channels when demanding information about private Kenyan users from Facebook.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">According Facebook policies , they don't respond to requests not channelled through formal legal process initiated.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Powered by Cricket Wireless</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> </div><div>Date: 9/17/20 1:59 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: wachiranancy91@yahoo.com </div><div>Cc: Kelvin Kariuki <kelvinkariuki89@gmail.com>, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> </div><div>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 2 Talk2Facebook ~ Data Protection </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you Twahir, Mutemi & Walu for your input. We hope the FB Personnel on the list will respond to</div><div>some of the issues you have raised. </div><div><br></div><div>Indeed we thought this particular topic on Data Protection will elicit more responses than we've got,</div><div>the floor is still open and you don't necessarily need to respond to the set questions, you can raise any</div><div>other issue around Data Protection of Facebook. </div><div><br></div><div>Tomorrow we talk about "<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Human Rights & Transparency". Thank you all! </span></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:07 PM Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">@Tr Karis,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">With Kenya enacting its Data Protection Act late last year, I would have thot the Data Protection theme would have elicited more responses....but perhaps that is precisely why we need the conversation to raise awareness...</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Nway, my experience is that FB has come a long way to be compliant with Data Protection matters - particularly following the EU GDPR enactment in 2018...their <a href="https://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation">Privacy </a>page says more.</div><div><br></div><div style="max-width:288px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;display:inline-block" id="gmail-m_-5928587948530283441ydp8d859b56enhancr_card_0565308680"><a rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)" href="https://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation"><table style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);width:288px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);border-radius:2px" height="80" width="288" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="width:10px" width="10px"></td><td><img height="24" width="24" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/23/logos/facebook.png" onmouseover="imageMousePointerUpdate(true)" onmouseout="imageMousePointerUpdate(false)"><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:16px;color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:4px 0px;max-width:186px;text-decoration:none">Data Policy</h2></td></tr></tbody></table></a><div style="width:100%;height:100%;display:flex;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0.3)"><div><div><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"> There seems to be still some problems however, and recently <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/ireland-to-order-facebook-to-stop-sending-user-data-to-u-s-11599671980?st=gpoha5h5u6vnl35&reflink=article_email_share">Irish Data Protection Commissioner ruled</a> that EU Citizen would no longer be send to US servers...since the US Gov can have access to it.</div><div><br></div><div style="max-width:288px;font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;display:inline-block" id="gmail-m_-5928587948530283441ydpa2cee946enhancr_card_0835582921"><a rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,0,0)" href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/ireland-to-order-facebook-to-stop-sending-user-data-to-u-s-11599671980?st=gpoha5h5u6vnl35&reflink=article_email_share"><table style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224,228,233);width:288px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);border-radius:2px" height="80" width="288" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="width:80px;background-color:rgb(0,0,0);border-radius:2px 0px 0px 2px;border-right:1px solid rgb(224,228,233)" width="80px"><img style="width: 80px; vertical-align: middle; border-radius: 2px 0px 0px 2px;" height="80" width="80" src="https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/fDlnCJjuyaQBWsm3_cmeXQ--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTgwO2g9ODA7YXBwaWQ9aWV4dHJhY3Q-/https://images.wsj.net/im-230101/social.cf.jpg" onmouseover="imageMousePointerUpdate(true)" onmouseout="imageMousePointerUpdate(false)"></td><td style="width:10px" width="10px"></td><td><img height="24" width="24" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/23/logos/wsj.png" onmouseover="imageMousePointerUpdate(true)" onmouseout="imageMousePointerUpdate(false)"><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:16px;color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:YahooSans,"Helvetica Neue","Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;margin:4px 0px;max-width:186px;text-decoration:none">WSJ News Exclusive | Ireland to Order F...</h2></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I just need to understand the role and extend of government surveillance on FB user data and how transparent FB is abou this.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">walu. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, September 17, 2020, 06:01:36 AM GMT+3, Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-5928587948530283441ydp86d6d5b3yiv1536066620"><div dir="ltr"><p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Dear Lister!</span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Trusting you are well, a great appreciation to all who shared their views on Day 1! We
are on Day 2 of “Talk2Facebook”, today we focus on Data Protection Issues.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Kenya enacted its
Data Protection & Privacy Act in 2019 where the rights of individuals (data
subjects) have been enhanced. Share your comments, experiences, and challenges
with regard to Facebook Services along the following themes:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">a) Have you
managed to exercise your right to access and port (move) all your data that you
ever posted on FB?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">b) Have you
managed to exercise your right to be forgotten, where you demand FB deletes all
the digital footprint they have about?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">c) Have you
managed to exercise your right to modify or restrict the consent you previously
granted to FB?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;line-height:150%;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif""> </span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">You can still comment on
yesterday’s topic under that thread. Otherwise, we hope to hear all your
concerns around Data Protection today on this thread so tomorrow we discuss “Human Rights & Transparency” matters. </span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif""> </span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Wonderful Thursday!</span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif""> </span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Rest of the Program:</span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Day 3: Human Rights &
Transparency</span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Day 4: Connectivity &
Wrap Up</span></p>
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<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Warm Regards,</span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Tr. Karis</span></p>
<p style="line-height:150%;margin:0cm 0cm 8pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"New serif"">Walu</span></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>kictanet mailing list<br><a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a rel="nofollow" href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>Twitter: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/kictanet">http://twitter.com/kictanet</a><br>Facebook: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/">https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/</a><br><br>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a rel="nofollow" href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com</a><br><br>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br><br>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br></div>
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