<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Listers<div>My two cents on the FTA .</div><div>The problems with data protection not withstanding, back to the original question Ali asked why there are 9 American companies on the FTA negotiation list; while on the one hand they might argue that these MNCs are also registered here (if that's the case), the bigger issue is what is the real benefit to Kenyan companies. This is reminiscent of the problems that the Economic Partnership Agreements (EPAs) with the EU caused where local producers ended up being disadvantaged getting the short end of the stick of being relegated to raw material providers, no participation and disadvantaged in costs with lack of government subsidies as opposed to the EU producers. As long as this is the case, the local producers do not get value for their produce, with very little value addition, we end up buying back our own products as imported goods when they are sold back to us as finished products. While this consortium seems to have Kenyan companies, it would be insightful to know the composition of those Kenyan companies, and if the 9 MNCs are representative or take the centre stage at the negotiations as Kenyan companies then that is problematic as there is no real negotiations with no real participation of Kenyan companies - still a case of scoring own goals- another short end of the stick to local producers where we remain relegated to raw materials producers and net importers of finished goods. Our industries can't grow under such trade agreements.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Beryl</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:03 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Asante Mugambi.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<div><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px">So the Kenya government has been negotiating a Free Trade Agreement with the U.S. Government. below is the high-level Vision for the </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/hashtag/?keywords=fta&highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6706564288401686528" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;font-weight:600;border:0px;color:rgb(102,94,208);line-height:inherit" target="_blank">#FTA</a>:-<br style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px;line-height:inherit">
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<b><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px">To conclude an agreement with Kenya that can serve as a model for additional agreements in Africa, leading to a network of agreements that contribute to Africa’s regional integration objectives. In addition,
the goal is to conclude an agreement that builds on the objectives of </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/hashtag/?keywords=agoa&highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6706564288401686528" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;border:0px;color:rgb(102,94,208);line-height:inherit" target="_blank">#AGOA</a><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px"> and
will serve as an enduring foundation to expand U.S -Africa trade and investment across the continent.</span></b><br style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px;line-height:inherit">
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<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/kenya-private-sector-alliance-kepsa/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;font-weight:600;border:0px;color:rgb(102,94,208);line-height:inherit" target="_blank">Kenya
Private Sector Alliance (KEPSA)</a><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px"> in its wisdom chose a number of companies to be in the consortium of the US-Kenya FTA negotiations/conversations.</span><br style="box-sizing:inherit;color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px;line-height:inherit">
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<span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px">Now...Is it just me or don't I understand International Trade? Someone, please explain to me why in that group of companies you have 9 American companies on the list? Including </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ibm/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;font-weight:600;border:0px;color:rgb(102,94,208);line-height:inherit" target="_blank">IBM</a><span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px">, </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-coca-cola-company/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;font-weight:600;border:0px;color:rgb(102,94,208);line-height:inherit" target="_blank">The
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<span style="color:rgba(0,0,0,0.9);font-size:14px">This is like scoring an own goal before starting the game! Or am I wrong? Please explain to me the rationale?</span><br>
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