<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Mheshimiwa</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Thanks for your response and continued engagement with the community. I recall Dr. Ndemo once remarked to me - </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><b>"Ali, wacha wewe!, you haven't worked until you've worked in government." </b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I'm sure its worse than that. We can't however give up. I've seen government agencies work better than the private sector. Someone needs to be held accountable. To my point 3. If someone at the Presidential Delivery Unit could just be convinced that without proper tools of communication the Big Four Agenda will be put in jeopardy... </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Abshiro Halake <<a href="mailto:abshiro.halake@gmail.com">abshiro.halake@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks very much Ali, these are great pointers. And yes Senate ICT committee will take it up. Will it be concluded in the 12th parliament's term? Please don't hold me to it but we shall try our very best. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">With regards to the excuse that tech support is so bad that government employees resort to personal mail, they actually have a point there. A tale is told of employees fired becuase they were not responsive yet the mail to which the urgent request from a "very important person" went was down for days. I have heard that employees resorting to personal mail is out of desperation and willingness to serve in the face of non-existent infrastructure and support. Either way, we must deal with this. This is definitely noted and we will take it up. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 08:55 Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Mheshimiwa</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Thanks for your personal attention on this matter. My two cents:-</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">1. First to answer your two issues.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">a) <b>T</b><b>hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain cadre of peopl</b>e - For as long as one is in Government employment everything that person does on behalf of the people of Kenya remains the property of the people of Kenya. I think the confusion starts when government employees mix personal business with government business. There's a possibility here that there is a requirement for some sensitivity training. We do take a lot for granted but we shouldn't. Bottomline. ALL OFFICIAL BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE OFFICIALLY. ON GOVT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. Which means official .<a href="http://go.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">go.ke</a> emails. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">b) <b>Tech maintenance and support is so bad</b> - I will not be surprised if this is the case. However, this should not be an excuse for not using official Govt Email. To be honest, Mheshimiwa, its super embarrassing for a country that is kicking ass (forgive the slang) in the technology space worldwide to have a conversation with colleagues in say Nigeria, and one sentence about Government Ministers using gmail/yahoo/hotmail deflates the conversation. Isn't the ICT Authority supposed to sort of act as Government CIO (Chief Information Officer). May be its time for a substantive Government Chief Information Officer responsible for all ICT issues in Government? including Data Centres, ICT Strategy etc? Do we need to revisit ICTA's mandate? </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">2. In today's world, we cannot afford sensitive government documents all over the world wide web on servers that we have zero control of. My sense is that we need to have some basic <b>*musts*</b> that need to be engrained in government employees. This could actually be an act of parliament on how govt operates ICT Infrastructure for its day to day operations. Here's an example of how <a rel="noreferrer">the U.K Government deals with this email issue</a>. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">3. Lastly Mheshimiwa, this issue of government email use has been discussed for years on this list and others. I don't honestly think (with all due respect to all responsible) that it has been taken seriously enough. Time to take it a notch higher. Could it possibly be something that the Senate ICT Committee can take up and see it to its logical conclusion? I mean if the National Government is in such a rut when it comes to basic email communication can you imagine what is happening in the counties? </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">I think that should be enough to keep you busy on this issue. :-)</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:33 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Ali, Twahir, team,<div><br></div><div>Great idea to enlighten the government and its agencies on this. The ICT Ministry should actually take the lead. We could put a parliamentary question to the ICT Ministry as to why the government continues to use personal emails. That being said, I was once told that there are two reasons why this is the case - 1. that government jobs are so temporary especially for certain cadre of people and 2. tech maintenance and support is so bad. Not sure if these are just excuses but it may be worth it to still put the questions. Can someone send me a few pointers to include in the question/statement? Perhaps why it is important to change this and also reassurance on security etc.....</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks and kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Sen. Abshiro</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:26 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">On these lines, the central government, county governments, parastatals, constituencies etc need to take the lead.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As Ali earlier in the week shared, it's very unfortunate to see government department letterheads with a PERSONAL yahoo / gmail / hotmail address. Is it that the government is unable to host a mail server or procure a cloud service? Bottom line again you will note is the ignorance towards basic IT security.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">KENIC should seek to enlighten the powers that be!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My 2 cents!</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 12:55 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><font face="georgia, serif">Team KeNIC </font><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">As we celebrate the 100k milestone we need to take cognisant of the issues raised in the last AGM. We still await a comprehensive follow-through by KeNIC. I suspect with better corporate governance the next milestone of 100k names will be much easier to reach.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
Hussein</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><br></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>T<font size="2">el: +254 713 60<font size="2">1113</font></font><br></span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span><span></span></span></font></p><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">
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<span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:21 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Listers,</div><div><br></div><div>Finally we have over <a href="http://registry.kenic.or.ke/statistics.jsp" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">100,000</a> .Ke names, what a milestone. Next should be the 1 Million Mark.</div><div><br></div><div>Kudos to the KeNIC team.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr">Barrack O. Otieno<br>+254721325277<br>+254733206359<br>Skype: barrack.otieno<br>PGP ID: 0x2611D86A<br> <br><br><br><br></div></div></div>
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