<div dir="auto">So many questions around governance still linger non the less I personally give Kudos to ICANN for the move though some think it should be hands off such transactions but .org is more than just transaction.<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think the most important outcome of this move by ICANN is that atleast the chances for authoritarian states to censor .org is somewhat hindered. Imagine a .org run by a for profit corporations that is subjected to some powerful state influence.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Noah<br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 4 May 2020, 10:18 Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet, <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I think the key word phrase here is
<b><font size="4">large Internet Community</font></b>
they serve. There have been a series of ZOOM Meetings by ISOC from the onset of this. However, it was probably confined
(not certain)
to only ISOC members. From the deliberations during the meetings, I must say they were very open minded and consultative. Drawing conclusions from what has been exchanged here, seems like the <i><b>consultative net</b></i> might not have been cast wide enough.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Anyways, it is water under the bridge now and lessons need to be drawn from this event. Lessons I have personally drawn are: -</div><div><ol><li>Governance is applicable to all</li><li>Public interest discussions should be very inclusive i.e. include affected people from within and without the organisations</li><li>For transparency, reasons should be given for decisions taken by any decision making body.</li></ol>My 2 cents<br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Not even ISOC should be allowed to 'sell-off' Public assets without consultations. I think that sometimes we have this sense that Do-Gooder organizations like ISOC are above Governance Issues. This is not the case. In fact, they should be held to higher ideals. </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">My sense is that this Ethos deal might as well have been a great idea. However, the way it was executed left a lot to be desired. A lot. I got the sense that the ISOC Board took the attitude that - <b>We know better...Trust us...</b>Without sensitizing the large Internet Community that they serve. </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Kudos to the ICANN Board for taking the position to reject the deal.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
Hussein</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><br></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>T<font size="2">el: +254 713 60<font size="2">1113</font></font><br></span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span><span></span></span></font></p><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">
</span></font><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Skype: abu-jomo</span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></span></font></p><p style="font-size:small;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:georgia;color:black"><br></span></p><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span><br><font size="1">Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.</font></span></span></font><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif;font-size:11pt"></span><span style="font-size:11pt"></span>
<span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 9:22 PM Noah via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Is this a good move by the ICANN board or should ICANN be hands of business and continue playing the coordination and administration.?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Is the .org is better off with PIR folks or should it have been managed by the folks at Ethos?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Then there is a school of thought that says non-profits are best off not trusting folks who are after stock/profit to manage such a tld which so many have come to depend on. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">In anycase, PIR needs continued support from the folks at ISOC who am sure must be very disappointed by this outcome.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">So even post IANA translation and the empowered community we still got <span style="font-family:sans-serif">lots of Politics, lobbyists, courts etc going.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Noah</span></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 12:49 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><p style="line-height:1.4rem;font-size:16px;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">The <abbr title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style="font-weight:inherit;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px dotted rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:initial">ICANN</abbr> Board made the decision to reject the proposed change of control and entity conversion request that Public Interest Registry (PIR) submitted to <abbr title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style="font-weight:inherit;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px dotted rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:initial">ICANN</abbr>.</p><p style="line-height:1.4rem;font-size:16px;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">After completing extensive due diligence, the <abbr title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style="font-weight:inherit;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px dotted rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:initial">ICANN</abbr> Board finds that withholding consent of the transfer of PIR from the Internet Society (<abbr title="Internet Society" style="font-weight:inherit;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px dotted rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:initial">ISOC</abbr>) to Ethos Capital is reasonable, and the right thing to do.</p><p style="line-height:1.4rem;font-size:16px;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><abbr title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style="font-weight:inherit;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px dotted rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:initial">ICANN</abbr>'s role is to ensure the stable and secure operation of the Internet's unique identifier systems. We are dedicated to making the right decision, knowing that whatever we decide will be well received by some, and not by others. It is our responsibility to weigh all factors from an <abbr title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style="font-weight:inherit;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px dotted rgb(153,153,153);text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:initial">ICANN</abbr> Bylaws and policies perspective, including considering the global public interest. We have done this diligently, ensuring as much transparency as possible and welcoming input from stakeholders throughout.</p><p style="line-height:1.4rem;font-size:16px;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></p><p style="line-height:1.4rem;font-size:16px;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-board-withholds-consent-for-a-change-of-control-of-the-public-interest-registry-pir" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-board-withholds-consent-for-a-change-of-control-of-the-public-interest-registry-pir</a></p></div>
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