<div dir="ltr">Thanks GG. Zoom is a mine field.<div><br></div><div>I would advise folks to stay off zoom for any 'serious' discourse ( its ideally for social interactions). </div><div><br></div><div>There are a ton of options depending on industry (Skype for Business will be obsolete very soon) TEAMS is one suggestion in terms of ease and setting up.</div><div><br></div><div>Eric <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>E Njoroge Mwangi</div><div>Technology| FINTECH | Big Data</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Cell <font color="#1155cc">+44 7539372742</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Skype: Erick.mwangi</div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:17 AM Kathy Mwai via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hon Abshiro, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Even the G20 has gone virtual. Here they were discussing their countries contributions to the fund researching on a vaccine. Just 2 days before the UK Prime Minister was taken ill. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kathy</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 00:48 Abshiro Halake via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Thank you Kaka, Noah, Barrack,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will look out for the Gire bill and see what in our context is the equivalent. I may need your help with providing the appropriate content. We don't have much time so time is of the essence. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Barrack thanks for the recommendation/suggestion of use of Zoom. I am a fun but Grace' insights yesterday opened my eyes to the fact that it may not be very secure. That said, what is, these days. Will add it to the list of apps to consider for sure. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks you all once again. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Abshiro. </div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 21:31 Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Kaka,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You raise very interesting points. I actually think the East African Community should also take up the matter. For Citizens to properly embrace the Internet in the Region, Trust is key. Quality of service, reliability and security of the Networks is a key consideration. We need more investment in connectivity within the EAC Countries and within the region. We also need affordable smart devices. What is the use of connectivity if citizens cannot afford devices that will enable them to make good use of the links. If it means zero rating so be it. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Mheshimiwa Abshiro we need the equivalent of the High Perfomance Computing Act aka the Gore bill to move our country forwad in ICT issues.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 8:14 pm Noah via kictanet, <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I totally agree with you @Walu and I believe we are on the same page but my only caution was for us not to focus so much on vendor sythax (which can be crammed to aid implementation) but rather principles.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Back to the main topic, Internet infrastructure across East Africa more than just Kenya needs robust upgrades and improving.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Bloody Covid19 is already a game changer and I believe we are all taking lessons from it especially within our space with the ICT infrastructure which politicians used to think was some luxury for a few elites proving to be a necessity in such a time. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">*ICT could emerge stronger post COVID-19*</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Some foresee an increase in demand for cloud computing platforms with enterprise applications proving to be inaccessible during lockdowns and #karantini. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Increasing usage of remote and collaboration tools. This requires bandwidth like serious bandwidth.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Increase in traffic to video streaming sites and social media platforms (Isolation is tough hey, humans are not wild beasts or gods, they must continue socializing)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Increased usage of apps from grocery delivery apps to essential goods apps. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Most importantly the future of education in the face of another future pendamic [1] with online education becoming defacto especially when schools in future could possibly be closed beyond just one moon.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">#ICT infrastructure is #critical infrastructure.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers,</div><div dir="auto">Noah</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">[1] Hellooooo....., there was the Spanish Flu, then the Influenza, then the SARS, then the Swine Flu, the Ebola and you guessed it right COVID-19.</div><div dir="auto"><br style="font-family:sans-serif"></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:52 Walubengo J, <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only <a href="https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Satoshi's Paper (the principles)</a> and not having access to say <a href="https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">IBM Blockchain platforms</a> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">walu.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">@Noah,</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">walu.</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_1087730458461400216m_7713156349368929942m_4819521189640214924m_-4149722691884791125m_-2210105653168973815m_1856659229172669441ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599m_-6662280636663138845ydp56d35353yiv4495509303"><div><div><div>The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the <span style="font-family:sans-serif">Huawei syntax.</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Just my thoughts....</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Noah</div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div id="gmail-m_1087730458461400216m_7713156349368929942m_4819521189640214924m_-4149722691884791125m_-2210105653168973815m_1856659229172669441ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599m_-6662280636663138845ydp56d35353yiv4495509303yqt09645"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">This is very true Barrack, <div>I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week</div><div>using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, </div><div>have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and </div><div>regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes </div><div>but for sure this is something that we need to look into. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with </div><div>credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training</div><div>I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Barrack</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Listers,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Barrack O. Otieno<br clear="none">+254721325277<br clear="none">+254733206359<br clear="none">Skype: barrack.otieno<br clear="none">PGP ID: 0x2611D86A<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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