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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">True, BUT assume I am Safaricom with maybe 70% of my infrastructure on Huawei and want to hire a Telco Engineer.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I prolly would get a candidate who has the Telco degree (the principles) and the Huawei Certification as the added advantage.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The other way around it would be that I hire then send the candidate back to finishing school for some hands on training. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Universities providing both principles and skills will have an advantage.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">On a light note, Imagine teaching Blockchain Technologies using only <a href="https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf">Satoshi's Paper (the principles)</a> and not having access to say <a href="https://www.ibm.com/blockchain/what-is-blockchain" class="">IBM Blockchain platforms</a> to provide students with some Lab exposure. The ones with Lab exposure will often stand out.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Having said that, there are those who 'cram' and pass vendor-certificate exams without really learning the principles. That is also a major risk to employers.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">walu.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM GMT+3, Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599"><div><div>@Walu<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I agree that a cocktail of standard principles and *mutlivendor* sythax should be the approach that can go on to see us provide better skills transfer.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I only caution us from repeating the old and outdated approach of only focusing training on one vendor since this only goes to help promote the vendors products in our markets rather provide true knowledge.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Employers should careless about Cisco or Juniper or Huawei but rather seek knowledgeable candidates who understand technology rather than people who have crammed how to implement a specific vendor sythax.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Noah</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599yqt4260748858" id="ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599yqt21325"><div class="ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599gmail_quote"><div class="ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 19:26 Walubengo J, <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">@Noah,</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Maybe we can do both. Teach the principles as well as offer exposure to one or several of the vendor technologies (whichever that maybe). I always find such an approach much more enriching and complimentary in my classes.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Teaching 'principles' without offering some practical vendor sessions is like teaching Wordprocessing - without using MS-Word/OpenOffice/etc because you are trying too hard to be vendor-agnostic ;-)</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">In short, I do appreciate the need to teach principles but also appreciate the need to use vendor specific examples/labs to drive the point home. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">walu.</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 07:03:16 PM GMT+3, Noah via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599m_-6662280636663138845ydp56d35353yiv4495509303"><div><div><div>The intermittent ip networks and grid-power aside.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Am curious to know why in this day and time and day, we are still focusing on vendor specific trainings.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>During earlier 2000's we focused so much on the Cisco's, then somehow the Junipers and today we are seeing the <span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Huawei syntax.</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Shouldn't we be focusing in todays Africa on teaching standard protocols even at a fundamental level and cocktail of vendors sythax rather than continually pushing some specific vendors technology which indirectly markets their kit as defacto to those we keep imbibing the skills too.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Just my thoughts....</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Noah</div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div id="ydpc2de2a94yiv2128798599m_-6662280636663138845ydp56d35353yiv4495509303yqt09645"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 11:28 Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet, <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">This is very true Barrack, <div>I have been teaching a live online class on a Huawei Certification in the past week</div><div>using Zoom and some of my students, who are on different parts of the country, </div><div>have really had issues keeping up because of poor internet connections and </div><div>regular disconnections. Thank God Zoom has a feature to record the classes </div><div>but for sure this is something that we need to look into. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>PS: All my students are using Safaricom as Huawei Kenya offered them with </div><div>credit cards to buy internet bundles in order to be able to learn online. The training</div><div>I'm doing is Huawei Certified ICT Associate (Routing & Switching)</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:14 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia, serif;">Barrack</div><div style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia, serif;">You got that right. Both Safaricom and Zuku have been intermittent over the past few days. Let's not even start with Kenya Power...</div><div style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia, serif;">Regards</div><div style="font-family:georgia, serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div>Listers,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It seems the quality of our Infrastructure is taking a hit as more people are working from home. Talking to friends from different corners of the countries across different Networks, there seems to be a challenge. I hope the Communications Authority is paying attention. The Internet and Infrastructure service providers should not just focus on free Internet and double speeds, quality of the connection is critical.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Barrack O. Otieno<br clear="none">+254721325277<br clear="none">+254733206359<br clear="none">Skype: barrack.otieno<br clear="none">PGP ID: 0x2611D86A<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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