<div dir="auto">@Lordmwesh, history has it that it won the auction and was awarded .Org because of its public interest outfit.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Check this out <a href="http://www.ahfb2000.com/threads/1068-Verisign-loses-org?p=5368&viewfull=1">http://www.ahfb2000.com/threads/1068-Verisign-loses-org?p=5368&viewfull=1</a></div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 19:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Mwendwa</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I see your point. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I just have one more question:-</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Who owns ISOC? That answer should put this conversation to rest. And were the owners consulted? :-)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mwendwa Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Of course reading Kieren McCarthy's articles will never give a balanced view. He looks at things from the most cynical perspective.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes, we have been following the debate keenly. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ali, here is ICANN's allegedly response <a href="https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/30/icann-says-it-does-not-have-authority-over-org-transaction/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/30/icann-says-it-does-not-have-authority-over-org-transaction/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And you cannot really compare the sale as selling a public playground. The .org was owned 100% by PIR and in extension ISOC. It is not owned by communities, neither is it owned by non profits. Don't let names like Ethos Capital or Public Interest Registry fool you. It is all commercial. ISOC won a competitive bid to manage the .org in 2003, and they have ultimate authority over how they profit from it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Here I some good reading on the debacle:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1. The interesting connection between the .Org deal and ICANN <a href="https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2. Ethos paid $1.135 billion for .Org <a href="https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/29/ethos-paid-1-135-billion-for-org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/29/ethos-paid-1-135-billion-for-org/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3. ISOC CEO repeats the registry competition fallacy <a href="https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/26/isoc-ceo-repeats-the-registry-competition-fallacy/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/26/isoc-ceo-repeats-the-registry-competition-fallacy/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">4. ISOC chapter breaks ranks, criticizes deal to sell .Org <a href="https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/27/isoc-chapter-breaks-ranks-criticizes-deal-to-sell-org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/27/isoc-chapter-breaks-ranks-criticizes-deal-to-sell-org/</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 14:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Sidney</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Thanks for sharing. This is akin to selling public land assigned for public good to a private developer. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">What is going on? And what is ICANN's response to this? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"> </div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
Hussein</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><br></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>T<font size="2">el: +254 713 60<font size="2">1113</font></font><br></span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span><span></span></span></font></p><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">
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<span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:12 PM Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div>Have you all be keeping tabs on the sale of the the .org TLD? </div><div>Catch up here:</div><div>Internet world despairs as non-profit .org sold for $$$$ to private equity firm, price caps axed: <a href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/</a></div><div>Please take some time to oppose this here: <a href="https://savedotorg.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://savedotorg.org/</a><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font size="2">Regards,</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small">Sidney</span><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="font-family:verdana;font-size:11px;color:rgb(51,61,71)"><tbody><tr><td height="20" valign="middle"><font size="2"><strong><br>Twitter:</strong> <a href="https://twitter.com/princelySid" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">@princelySid</a> | <b>Web: </b><a href="http://sidneyochieng.co.ke/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sidneyochieng.co.ke</a><br><b>Skype: </b>sidney.ochieng | <b>Github:</b> <a href="https://github.com/princelySid" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">princelySid</a></font><br></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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