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<div>what's the definition of a group... anything of 2 or more? does it matter if a group only exists for a few days? 20m + Kenyans online, I'm guessing about 100m groups (not double counting) to register!</div>
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<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>From:</b>Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke></div>
<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>To:</b>Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com></div>
<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>Cc:</b>Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com></div>
<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>Date:</b>2019-09-25 13:40:25</div>
<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>Subject</b>Re: [kictanet] The Kenya Information and Communication (Amendment) Bill, 2019 - No. 61 of 2019 (Malulu Injendi Bill)</div>
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<div>What if we just ask someone who's not resident in Kenya to start a Whatsapp group and be the solo admin? Will CA still need to clear them?</div>
<div>Oh, and what if we decide to use a Telegram group or Microsoft Teams or Skype or Microsoft Kaizala ?? Those too will require clearance by CA?</div>
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<div>Salim, please clarify why clearance is essential?</div>
<div>Like meeting over coffee now requires clearance?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 09:32, Salim Ali via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Dear All,<br>
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I think this clearance for Group Admins is very essential.<br>
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We approve too much unjustifiable info to the society. <br>
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:43 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Listers,<br>
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> Reference an article on Standard today (24th September 2019) titled "Facebook, WhatsApp groups admins to seek CA clearance" attached is the said bill.<br>
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> Whilst agreeably we need to regulate the social media inline with Internet Governance; the essence of this bill is both BACKWARD and OPPRESSIVE for lack of stronger terms to use.<br>
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> Having said that, it is imperative that we go through this with a tooth comb and point it's flaws and suggest better ways - a better way is definitely there. On this note, I think it is high time that we started looking at issue and put up measures before
we get hit by such bills and start fire fighting.<br>
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> Let's roll up our sleeves.<br>
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> Twahir Hussein Kassim<br>
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<div>Best regards,<br>
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,<br>
Nairobi,KE<br>
+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223<br>
"<span style="font-size:12.8px">Oh, the cruft.</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">", </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">grep ^[^#] :-)</span></div>
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