<div dir="ltr">Patrick,<div><br></div><div>The issue was actually about the transparency on the cost of renewal, nothing about how little the cost is compared to c0ffee .</div><div>Remember that in KE, there are people who live below $1/day so $2-3 is such a significant amount, no? :-)</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 13:38, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp70971a83yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div>Listers, a quick google-search shows that .africa renewal is unlikely to exceed current market price of ~$20 (and could go lower depending on market forces). <br></div><div><br></div><div>So the deals being offered are reasonable and <b>win-win</b> if you plan to use your site for commercial gain as you have a whole year to try out and develop your business idea. <br></div><div><br></div><div>For perspective,  <span>$2-3 </span>is the price of one/two cup(s) of coffee at your favorite Wi-Fi lounge. You can always switch registrars - or abandon the domain when renewal falls due, if things don't work out.</div><div><br></div><div>There are other considerations of course (which are usual and normal) such as registrar credibility and/or jurisdiction issues in case of trademark or other disputes. To mitigate those risks, and <span>to promote our local tech industry, </span>I would recommend .africa registrars whose servers are based in Kenya.</div><div><br></div><div>Good day.<br></div><div><br></div><div>  </div><div><br></div>
        
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                    On Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 1:08:21 PM GMT+3, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:
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                <div><div id="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827"><div><div>Hi Ali,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>This information is very clear. It is the responsibility of Registrars to inform and  educate the Registrants on the same. Mark Elkins has done that in this thread. That said no excuses, this domain is going for the price of a loaf of bread it cant get any cheaper, people should just buy , we can discuss renewal fees in 11 months time.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 04:35 Harry Delano via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>That's indeed...!<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Harry</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 5 Feb 2019, 18:10 Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I should have done it before letting the cat out of the bag! :-) <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_quote"><div class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 17:36, Mark Elkins via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Good Try. Although at Registration one can technically purchase
      up to 10 (not 15) years for a brand new domain - the offer is as I
      understand it only for the first year.</p>
    <p>To be honest - I've no idea if it would work (whether its been
      programmed properly)  at the Registry or any ICANN Registrars. I
      have just "corrected" my code so if a domain is on sale - you can
      only buy one year. Thanks for that evil heads-up!<br clear="none">
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    <div class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827m_1781885375016613185m_-1791193596566395720gmail-m_-1674619242270393356moz-cite-prefix">On 2019/02/05 15:37, Odhiambo
      Washington via kictanet wrote:<br clear="none">
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      <div dir="ltr">Can I register, say, odhiambo.africa for 15 years
        using the offer? I need to renew after 15 years only :) </div>
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        <div class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 16:31,
          Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>
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          <div>Indeed Mark.
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            <div>Regards</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 11:30 Mark Elkins via
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                <p>Just to confirm, in South Africa, on my <a shape="rect" href="http://VWEB.co.za" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">VWEB.co.za</a>
                  portal - I am currently charging R40.00 (thats under
                  US$3.00) for an "Africa" domain registration to the
                  man in the street - that's half the price of a <a shape="rect" href="http://CO.ZA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CO.ZA</a>. Only until the end
                  of March and only for new domains. <br clear="none">
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                  The ZACR really is promoting the AFRICA space very
                  well.<br clear="none">
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                <div class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827m_1781885375016613185m_-1791193596566395720gmail-m_-1674619242270393356gmail-m_2397450771138469719m_7726457767984064689moz-cite-prefix">On
                  2019/02/05 12:44, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote:<br clear="none">
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                    <div>Listers,</div>
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                    <div>There is an offer for .Africa Domains for Kes
                      200. This is your chance to take your business
                      beyond the borders. Kindly note that the renewal
                      fee will be different.</div>
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                    <div>Regards<br clear="none">
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                          Forwarded message ---------<br clear="none">
                          From: <b class="gmail-m_-6472384104707473260ydp3c38aff5yiv9101151827gmail_sendername">Afriregister
                            Kenya</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a shape="rect" href="mailto:admin@afriregister.co.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">admin@afriregister.co.ke</a>></span><br clear="none">
                          Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:07 PM<br clear="none">
                          Subject: Promotion for registration of .africa
                          at 200 KES<br clear="none">
                          To: <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
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                        Dear Client,<br clear="none">
                        <br clear="none">
                        I hope this email finds you well.<br clear="none">
                        We would like to inform you that from February
                        1st to March 31, 2019, there is a promotion for
                        .africa registration. The price is 200 KES /
                        year for each registration. Please note that the
                        promotion is only for registrations and not
                        renewals and that it is a registration for one
                        year.<br clear="none">
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                        Thank You<br clear="none">
                        Best regards<br clear="none">
                        Afriregister Kenya </div>
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          people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or
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