<div dir="auto">Errr, Sam Oduor - I have a feeling that there's a strategy/white paper somewhere on this Konza thing that might not be in agreement with your long input.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Usually techies are not historians like you seem inclined. Konza was, IMHO, supposed to be an ICT hub, not a museum project. </div><div dir="auto">ICT stuff are supposed to be fully functional within months (not years) after the groundwork has been laid down, lest they become obsoleted by time. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So far, what's going on in Konza?? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 14:41 Sam Oduor <<a href="mailto:sam.oduor@gmail.com">sam.oduor@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Personally I do not think it was a white elephant; great ideas mature over the long term -> cant take 10-50 years. <div><br></div><div>Rome was not built on a single day - the project needs support from techies like us and investors. </div><div><br></div><div>Konza being of National interest should be a phased 10 - 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 .... year planned development approach. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Partly I would blame the land/property rush experienced in Kenya btw 2009 - 2012 ; guys inflated prices and no one was there to regulate - this might have had negative effects some investors planning to go in considering investors look at ROI which is key to any investment. I cannot see the math of buying land for 50k and selling it at 800k -> this was obviously not sustainable; where does such capital come from ? Virtual loans ?</div><div><br></div><div>Konza and many other projects are still very viable in Kenya and I have high hopes my only plea is for the Govt to be at the core of things like Land, Property and Infrastructure from unjustifiable exploits -> this way it will encourage investors to settle creating more Jobs which equates to good security, a healthy and sustainable economic growth.</div></div><div id="m_-7887585263603868150DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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id="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-js_bft" style="font-family:inherit">12 hrs</span></abbr></a></span></span><span class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_6spk" style="font-family:inherit"> · </span><div class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_6a m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_29ee m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_4f-9 m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_43_1" style="display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle;padding:3px 0px;font-family:inherit"><span style="font-family:inherit"><i class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_1lbg m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-img m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-sp__EFZWPnvn_g_1_5x m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-sx_1880b8" style="background-image:url("");background-size:500px 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Concentrations of industrial excellence do not sprout up suddenly just because physical buildings and infrastructure are around. That is not the bottleneck, and anyone can provide that. The real battles of realizing something like the proposed Konza city are elsewhere.</p></div><div class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_3x-2" style="font-family:inherit"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:12px"></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-size:12px"><div class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_5r69 m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_sds" style="max-width:initial;font-family:inherit"><div class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_4-u2 m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-mts m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_2-82 m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_4-u8" style="margin-top:5px;overflow:hidden;padding:12px 12px 6px;border-width:1px 0px;border-style:solid;border-color:transparent;border-radius:3px;font-family:inherit"><div class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-clearfix" style="zoom:1;font-family:inherit"><a class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-lfloat m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_ohe" href="https://www.facebook.com/jaylaan11/posts/10219010532593216?__tn__=%2CdH-R-R&eid=ARD-GjetXsxKA5gn9sTexDGe7PznmLamh6o5fIO4X1fsoJQoac7z4TdB7LZtN_bg_tSxxFa0kEQS7LIa" style="color:rgb(54,88,153);text-decoration-line:none;float:left;font-family:inherit" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><div class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-_38vo" style="font-family:inherit"><br class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div></a></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="m_-7887585263603868150gmail-m_7124169970814596409gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Best regards,<br>Odhiambo WASHINGTON,<br>Nairobi,KE<br>+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223<br>"<span style="font-size:12.8px">Oh, the cruft.</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">", </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">grep ^[^#] :-)</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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