<div dir='auto'><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Barrack in your drift then soon we shall have the client if we label her Madam Lovely also entitled to the interest in savings made by her customer or mother or friend whom she sends any moneys or money value to.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This could actually turn out to be a hobby or profession - timing your contacts to profit with them. Just as Madam Lovely bears their financial burdens.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A new FinTech model awakening here that has a three stones; one Blockchain like silent agreement, two 'finger<span style="font-family: sans-serif;"> clickiosis' Customers just adopting as usual and three, SACCO like</span> guarantee.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The consumer lobbies perspectives and positions would be great to have before the service providers, their lobby Associations and hopefully government views.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If T&R is something to hedge on, then the ... education powers....Saitotis/Ongeris/Matiangis/Aminas would have a case as custodians of not only illeteracy levels but also the comprehension levels of the said literates - a category that Madam Lovely seems to fall in.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">†*****†</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: georgia, cambria, "times new roman", times, serif; font-size: 16px;">The Director for Adult and Continuing Education (DACE) Irreneous Kinara said the first Kenya National Literacy Survey (KNALS) survey was conducted in 2006.</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: georgia, cambria, "times new roman", times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style="text-indent:3em">It showed that 7.8 million (38.5%) of the adult population was illiterate, while Kenyans aged between 15 and 19 years had 69.1 per cent literacy rate.</span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: georgia, cambria, "times new roman", times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style="text-indent:3em">Read: <a href="https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2014/09/10/78-million-kenyans-lack-minimum-literacy-levels_c1002042" style="color: rgb(71, 125, 202); text-decoration-line: none;">7.8 million Kenyans lack minimum literacy levels</a></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: georgia, cambria, "times new roman", times, serif; font-size: 16px;">The report was conducted between June and August 2006 by the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KEBS) and the Department of Adult Education, UNESCO, in Nairobi.</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: georgia, cambria, "times new roman", times, serif; font-size: 16px;">Latest statistics from the World Bank show that Kenya’s adult literacy levels stood at 79 per cent in 2014 while the average global adult literacy level stood at 86 per cent as at 2016.</p><div style="color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: georgia, cambria, "times new roman", times, serif; font-size: 16px;" dir="auto"><div><div style="float:left;padding:1em"></div></div></div><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: georgia, cambria, "times new roman", times, serif; font-size: 16px;">Zimbabwe had the highest levels in Africa at 89 per cent during the same year.</p></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div style="background:rgb( 245 , 245 , 245 );padding:15px 20px;font-size:14px;margin:0px;font-family:'pt sans' , sans-serif;border-bottom:0px" dir="auto"><p style="margin:0px 0px 20px;padding:0px;border-bottom:0px">In 2015, adult literacy rate for Kenya was 78 %. Adult literacy rate of Kenya fell gradually from 82.2 % in 2000 to 78 % in 2015.</p><span style="width:30px;height:30px;margin-top:10px;float:left;border-bottom:0px"></span><span style="color:rgb( 105 , 147 , 169 );float:right;border-bottom:0px">The description is composed by Yodatai, our digital data assistant. Have a question?<a href="https://yodatai.knoema.com/?utm_source=atlas-mobile&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=knoema-promo" style="color:rgb( 30 , 119 , 189 );display:block">Ask Yodatai ›</a></span></div><p style="font-family:'pt sans' , sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:15px 20px;background:rgb( 245 , 245 , 245 );font-size:14px;border-bottom:0px">Adult (15+) literacy rate (%). Total is the percentage of the population age 15 and above who can, with understanding, read and write a short, simple statement on their everyday life. Generally, ‘literacy’ also encompasses ‘numeracy’, the ability to make simple arithmetic calculations. This indicator is calculated by dividing the number of literates aged 15 years and over by the corresponding age group population and multiplying the result by 100.</p></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Blessings.</div><div dir="auto">Regards/Wangari</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="elided-text">On Nov 19, 2018 10:04, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Ahmed,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Many thanks for your perspective but if indeed the service provider gave a warning that the person owed them some money and that you were assuming the role of a guarantor then look no further. Terms and conditions apply. Its just business. The elephant in the room is how do the service providers deal with Customers that abuse credit facilities, i suppose this system mimics the guarantor system used by bankers. When all is said and done, they cornered the party they were looking for.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><br><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:58 Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello Barrack,<div><br></div><div>You have a point. But however, someone else's bad habits shouldn't be my problem. Infact if its anyone's problem Safaricom should own it.</div><div><br></div><div>Can you imagine walking into Carrefour and someone shoplifted an item and your told you need to pay for it?</div></div><br><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 9:35 AM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi Wangari,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have seen the story but i don't see the problem here based on Safaricoms explanation. There are many people who take Okoa jahazi or Mshwari and throw away simcards hoping they can never be traced, it seems Safaricom is working overdrive to seal this loopholes. I guess this is an ethical issue that is double edged.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><br><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:28 WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.kahawatungu.com/2018/11/18/safaricom-stealing-mpesa-users-buy-airtime-subscribers-okoa-jahazi/">https://www.kahawatungu.com/2018/11/18/safaricom-stealing-mpesa-users-buy-airtime-subscribers-okoa-jahazi/</a><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">*A courteos response by the attendant to an aggrevated concerned client.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Highlights how interlinked people are as FinTech becomes more entrenched.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For a business, this is a relatively sure way to repayments. As the client interactions/contacts also become by default payers. An extension of SACCO system which makes it one of the safest lending models.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How far might a customer be liable to the debts of the Supermarket they shop at? How much information about the Supermarket's debt profile would be at any customers reach.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Now that the favorite Mama Mboga is paid him mobile money also, then millions of Kenyans would be caught up in this. Paying off her debts as they just click twendelee... yes, yes, yes to the T&R.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So who says that it is wrong, illegal? Or why?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">While in the sensation, most stones and spears may be thrown at the service provider, it's high time the consumer groups wear their hat as neutrals for a sober guide.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kindly, might the Consumer lobby enlighten on this. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">*(Whether the case is true or not partly true or very true - it would still be good to know whether this is a model to watch out for or even borrow from).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Blessed new week!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Be blessed.</div><div dir="auto">Regards/Wangari</div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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</blockquote></div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 19, 2018 10:04, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Ahmed,<div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Many thanks for your perspective but if indeed the service provider gave a warning that the person owed them some money and that you were assuming the role of a guarantor then look no further. Terms and conditions apply. Its just business. The elephant in the room is how do the service providers deal with Customers that abuse credit facilities, i suppose this system mimics the guarantor system used by bankers. When all is said and done, they cornered the party they were looking for.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:58 Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello Barrack,<div><br /></div><div>You have a point. But however, someone else's bad habits shouldn't be my problem. Infact if its anyone's problem Safaricom should own it.</div><div><br /></div><div>Can you imagine walking into Carrefour and someone shoplifted an item and your told you need to pay for it?</div></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 9:35 AM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi Wangari,<div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">I have seen the story but i don't see the problem here based on Safaricoms explanation. There are many people who take Okoa jahazi or Mshwari and throw away simcards hoping they can never be traced, it seems Safaricom is working overdrive to seal this loopholes. I guess this is an ethical issue that is double edged.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:28 WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.kahawatungu.com/2018/11/18/safaricom-stealing-mpesa-users-buy-airtime-subscribers-okoa-jahazi/">https://www.kahawatungu.com/2018/11/18/safaricom-stealing-mpesa-users-buy-airtime-subscribers-okoa-jahazi/</a><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">*A courteos response by the attendant to an aggrevated concerned client.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Highlights how interlinked people are as FinTech becomes more entrenched.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">For a business, this is a relatively sure way to repayments. As the client interactions/contacts also become by default payers. An extension of SACCO system which makes it one of the safest lending models.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">How far might a customer be liable to the debts of the Supermarket they shop at? How much information about the Supermarket's debt profile would be at any customers reach.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Now that the favorite Mama Mboga is paid him mobile money also, then millions of Kenyans would be caught up in this. Paying off her debts as they just click twendelee... yes, yes, yes to the T&R.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">So who says that it is wrong, illegal? Or why?</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">While in the sensation, most stones and spears may be thrown at the service provider, it's high time the consumer groups wear their hat as neutrals for a sober guide.</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Kindly, might the Consumer lobby enlighten on this. </div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">*(Whether the case is true or not partly true or very true - it would still be good to know whether this is a model to watch out for or even borrow from).</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Blessed new week!</div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto"><br /></div><div dir="auto">Be blessed.</div><div dir="auto">Regards/Wangari</div></div>_______________________________________________<br />
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