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<div style="font-size: 16px;">They can be contractually waived, which is a legal loophole with essentially has similar effect to the creator (specifically the *loss* of moral rights).</div><div style="font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div style=""><span style="font-family: Nunito, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Apple Color Emoji, Arial, sans-serif, Segoe UI Emoji, Segoe UI Symbol; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font size="2" style="">"The Entrant User hereby waives any moral rights in and to the winning solution code (including but not limited to any rights to claim authorship of the code and any rights to object to any distortion, mutilation or other modification of the code) in favour of Zindi (or the Host User, as nominated by Zindi) and Zindi’s successors in title."</font></span><br></div><div style="font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div style="font-size: 16px;"><br></div>
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On Monday, November 12, 2018, 2:40:01 PM GMT+3, Bernard Kioko <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpa066b203yiv0445137351"><div><div dir="ltr">Moral rights are not transferrable. </div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpa066b203yiv0445137351gmail_quote"><div class="ydpa066b203yiv0445137351yqt0877230154" id="ydpa066b203yiv0445137351yqt59773"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 2:35 PM Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpa066b203yiv0445137351gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="ydpa066b203yiv0445137351m_8865581496828366675ydp49d2ba55yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
<div>Heehe $12,000 for the "best" source code (including moral rights - so you will never get credited if its a big hit) is a complete joke imo. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I would urge local developers to be cautious about these competitions and approach them strategically. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>For example, you can use these kind of competitions as idea triggers to (lawfully) get clues and inspiration on what problems need solving <span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;">(*without* participating or signing up, as that potentially binds you to their T&Cs) </span></span>- then form teams/coalitions to solve these problems independently for a much bigger potential payoff.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>On policy these things are happening because there are glaring loopholes in our intellectual property laws that allow *IP mining* to take place without any restriction or consequences. Its literally a free for all.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Kenya needs an "Intellectual Property Resources Act", which would invalidate exploitative contracts / terms and conditions is long overdue. This is the kind of 21st Century legislation that can stimulate innovation and the creation of *high quality jobs* in Kenya.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>21st Century resources include: </div><div>1. Attention or engagement (systems designed to distract people from contributing to economic activity) </div><div>2. Data (for mining/analytics or ML)</div><div>3. Source code, novel circuits, algorithms, chemical formulations, mixtures, blue prints (including business plans, pricing models etc).</div><div>4. Valuable ideas (e.g. "please call me") that cannot be protected via any combination of the old industrial era laws e.g. patents, copyright, UM & DM.</div><div>5. other?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks for the heads up and Good day!</div><div>Patrick.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Monday, November 12, 2018, 2:01:43 PM GMT+3, Wainaina Mungai via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpa066b203yiv0445137351m_8865581496828366675ydpab3a0211yiv7570521381"><div>Some developers are raising concerns privately that great initiatives such as Zindi are "cheaply buying AI code" from Africa <a shape="rect" href="https://zindi.africa/faq/data_scientists" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://zindi.africa/faq/data_scientists</a><div><br clear="none"></div><div>According to them, "Zindi runs high-value expertise programming competitions/ hackathons in Kenya and Nigeria... and demands code in exchange for low pay prizes. It is unfairly low-cost labour for them."</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>See attached. Are their concerns valid?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div> </div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">kictanet mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br clear="none">Twitter: <a shape="rect" href="http://twitter.com/kictanet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/kictanet</a><br clear="none">Facebook: <a shape="rect" href="https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/</a><br clear="none">Domain Registration sponsored by <a shape="rect" href="http://www.eacdirectory.co.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.eacdirectory.co.ke</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Unsubscribe or change your options at <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pmaina2000%40yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pmaina2000%40yahoo.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br clear="none"></div>
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