<div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">I am not sure if this has already been posted, but this article says the regulator wants the data stored on WhatsApp and Skype to be shared by the Govt. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><a href="https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp/3946234-4832970-15byqjn/index.html">https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Telcos-regulator-seeks-to-monitor-WhatsApp/3946234-4832970-15byqjn/index.html</a></div><br></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 16:56, Mark Elkins via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>As a follow on to WhatsApp and its end-to-end security - one can
      do something quite similar for e-mail.</p>
    <p>Practising what I preach...<br>
    </p>
    <p>At Posix Systems - customers can send e-mail to my mail relay
      server. This is running Mail Submission on port 587 with
      username/password authentication over TLS (The session is
      encrypted). This has the distinct advantage of working from any
      Internet connection my customer is on and everything is encrypted
      whilst over the wire. Additionally, if you are an ISP with your
      own customer infrastructure - you can now block port 25 and reduce
      SPAM from Virus' on customer PC's. Customers can also fetch e-mail
      (POP3/IMAP) over TLS (Ports 995 and 993 respectively) - so both
      the e-mail and passwords are also securely encrypted when
      fetching/downloading email.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Whilst email-server to email-server can opportunistically also
      run TLS (encryption) between MTA's (Mail Transport Agents), I also
      run DANE. This means if the target mail system advertises their
      TLS info in a TLSA DNS record (Advertise their SSL Certificate in
      the DNS System) - I KNOW they have TLS (a Security Certificate) 
      and WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE - so if a connection is made and
      either the TLS signature is incorrect or does not exist (perhaps a
      man-in-the-middle attack) - the mail will not be delivered.<br>
      The only issue with this is the target TLSA record must be in a
      DNSSEC signed zone - and obviously, the sending MTU must use a
      DNSSEC aware DNS Resolver to check the Target Mail system.<br>
    </p>
    <p>This setup though gives end-to-end encryption of e-mail that no
      one can intercept. The MTA's though do have the e-mail in an
      unencrypted form. I'd presume the e-mail customers can trust their
      ISP's.<br>
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    <p>(Although technical - I hope this brief description is
      understandable)<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="m_8912864935275022802moz-cite-prefix">On 11/02/2018 12:16 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva
      via kictanet wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Thanks Wambua.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="auto">Just to clarify, and even rubbish that article,
          we need to understand that a platform like whatsapp uses end
          to end encryption, and cannot be snooped on, not even by
          Facebook.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="auto">
          <h1>End-to-end
            encryption</h1>
          <div dir="auto">
            <p style="margin:0px 0px 21px;border:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">When
              end-to-end encrypted, your messages, photos, videos, voice
              messages, documents, status updates and calls are secured
              from falling into the wrong hands.</p>
            <p style="margin:0px 0px 21px;border:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">WhatsApp
              end-to-end encryption ensures only you and the person
              you're communicating with can read what's sent, and nobody
              in between, not even WhatsApp. Your messages are secured
              with locks, and only the recipient and you have the
              special keys needed to unlock and read your messages. For
              added protection, every message you send has an unique
              lock and key. All of this happens automatically: No need
              to turn on settings or set up special secret chats to
              secure your messages.</p>
            <p style="margin:0px 0px 21px;border:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(50,55,59)">Important</span>:
              End-to-end encryption is always activated. There's no way
              to turn off end-to-end encryption.</p>
            <p style="margin:0px 0px 21px;border:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">OK,
              Now that we have debunked the possibility of CA reading
              your whatsapp, let us look at the types of regulations CA
              can put on over the top services. Remember Uganda social
              media tax? What about Ethiopia restriction of Skype? Yes
              those are the two most popular regulatory interventions
              that backward regimes use.</p>
            <p style="margin:0px 0px 21px;border:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">1.
              Censorship, filtering, and blockage </p>
            <p style="margin:0px 0px 21px;border:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">2.
              Taxation</p>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 2, 2018, 11:50 AM Wambua, Christopher
          via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Listers</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>For purposes of clarity on the objects of the tender
                in question,  I wish to refer listers to  the public
                tender document which is available on CA’s website at
                <a href="https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Study-On-Over-The-Top-OTTs-Technologies-Services-In-Kenya.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://ca.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Consultancy-Services-For-The-Study-On-Over-The-Top-OTTs-Technologies-Services-In-Kenya.pdf</a></div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>In brief, the Authority, under its strategic
                objective of enabling widespread deployment of
                infrastructure and services through promotion of new and
                emerging technologies, plans to undertake a study to
                determine the regulatory mechanisms that can be employed
                to cater for new and emerging areas with specific focus
                on over the top services.  The consultant shall be
                expected to propose the regulatory approach that the
                Authority can take in respect to OTTs. CA takes this
                opportunity to invite listers who meet the requirements
                set out in the tender documents to submit their bids by
                14th November 2018. </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>CA wishes to assure listers that we have not interest
                whatsoever in snooping  into your WhatsApp conversations
                as that would be against the spirit and letter of the
                constitution. We have however noted that the headlines
                on the articles on this tender are misleading, and the
                Authority is taking up this matter with the respective
                editors.  </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I hope this clarification puts this matter to rest.  </div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>Regards</div>
              <div><br>
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                <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, 2
                November 2018 at 05:07<br>
                <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Christopher
                Wambua <<a href="mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wambua@ca.go.ke</a>><br>
                <span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Ali Hussein
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                <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
                [kictanet] Telcos regulator seeks to monitor WhatsApp<br>
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                <div dir="auto">@GG
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                  <div>Thanks for sharing. I’m curious as to what the
                    world is coming to. Everyone wants to snoop and
                    regulate. Can the CA tell us what’s the major value
                    proposition to increasing  snooping on us?</div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>Regulators need to spend more time enabling the
                    sector they are supposed to grow and the CA has
                    really been progressive in many ways. Once in a
                    while though they try to go back to the bad old KANU
                    days. The onus is on us to remind them that Kenyans
                    shut that door kitambo sana.<br>
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                      <div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div>
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                      On 1 Nov 2018, at 10:57 PM, Grace Githaiga via
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                            Kenya is considering regulating online
                            services such as WhatsApp and Skype in a
                            radical move that could force the
                            internet-based service providers to share
                            data with the government.</p>
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                            The Communications Authority of Kenya (CA)
                            is in search of a consultant to study and
                            determine how the so-called over-the-top
                            services (OTTS) operated by groups such as
                            Facebook, which runs WhatsApp, and Skype
                            owner Microsoft, could be regulated.</p>
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                        Githaiga, Grace<br>
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