<div dir="auto">I think it's a very valid point.<div dir="auto">A lot of proposals around regulation of the sector are pointers to huge knowledge gaps as to what. And how the industry works. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It happened even at MZs hearings so we do need to be on the same page about who and or what is being regulated before we go to how best to do it. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 1:08 PM kanini mutemi via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><font face="Avenir-Book" style="font-size:14px">I say this in jest…perhaps what’s necessary is ‘How the Internet works’ primer. That would very quickly demystify the idea that there are certain people called ‘ICT Practitioners’.<br></font><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 19 Sep 2018, at 13:44, Thomas Kaberi via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_8519841032177513110Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br><span style="font-family:sans-serif">This is a very contentious issue with multiple and divergent interests.</span><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><span style="font-family:sans-serif">As Ali would put it Kila mwamba ngoma is going to vuta kwake </span> <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But let me start with congratulating you all for showing up to do this again, it clearly wasn't going to be a one time stand <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> <span style="font-family:sans-serif">On top of just fighting, this time we must be the ones to figure it out as well.</span><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As some fight and others make noise and throw tantrums, while the majority flee and bury their heads -- in true Kenya style...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have listed below 11 key lessons we could borrow from the previous lobbying efforts in the first round.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">They are:<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1. Find out the political reasons behind the bill</div><div dir="auto"> --- there is always a few and they are the only ones that matter.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2. Work with the mover and chairs very very closely but don't forget the researchers, committee members and support staff.</div><div dir="auto">---major influences oftenly ignored to the peril of many.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3. Lobby both one on one and committee. </div><div dir="auto">---The members are smart human beings with personal views and positions that may not surface in group hearings for political and other reasons. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">---The one on one's give a view into the undercurrents and nuances in the committee proceedings preparing us not to react but respond effectively.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">4. Have a unified agenda and scenarios for both the fundamentals and specifics.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">--generalities and differences only serve to make the point that we are disorganised and don't know what we want. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">5. Give specific line by line recommendations. </div><div dir="auto">--It easier to negotiate specifics</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">6. Educate the committee members about implications of each clause. </div><div dir="auto">--don't assume they know and or connect with your views and context. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">7. This is going to be a hard, rough and windy road thus plan for both the best and worst outcomes. </div><div dir="auto">--Frastration is a key strategy in the making of sausages that lawmaking is. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">8. That even within the sector we will detractors, armchair critics and lone ranger self seekers.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">---not everyone is saying what they mean and not few things are what they seem to be. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">10. Focus on what people really need beyond what what they seem to seek. </div><div dir="auto"> -- Be open to giving more than you expect to give and take much less than you bargain for. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">11. Whoever hangs on long enough will have the best chance to win. </div><div dir="auto">--We've done it before and we can do it again and again if that's what it takes. </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 9:21 AM Barry Macharia via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Dear All <div><br></div><div>This is back in parliament again </div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.cio.co.ke/kenyas-controversial-ict-practitioners-bill-re-emerges/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cio.co.ke/kenyas-controversial-ict-practitioners-bill-re-emerges/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards </div><div>Barry </div><div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>kictanet mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>Twitter:<span class="m_8519841032177513110Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/kictanet" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/kictanet</a><br>Facebook:<span class="m_8519841032177513110Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/</a><br>Domain Registration sponsored by<span class="m_8519841032177513110Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.eacdirectory.co.ke/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.eacdirectory.co.ke</a><br><br>Unsubscribe or change your options at<span class="m_8519841032177513110Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/thomaskaberi%40gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/thomaskaberi%40gmail.com</a><br><br>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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