<div dir="ltr">I agree with Sidney.<div><br></div><div>Operations and Management of a long haul public fiber network (including determining the most suitable commercial structure to have maximum impact) is something that needs to be handled with care. Putting such resources in the hands of stewards who don't care about service levels and are looking to siphon top dollar out of every inch of the fiber is a recipe for disaster - as has already been proven.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:12 PM Barry Macharia via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Sidney <div><br></div><div>Are we you suggesting we get every one to a poorly implemented fiber network so that we dont dig as you say </div><div>or what are you saying , kindly clarify </div><div><br></div><div>barry <br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 6 Sep 2018, at 14:43, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_9167708398630710026Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">Just because NOFBI was poorly implemented doesn't mean it's a bad idea, if it's being poorly managed it needs to looked at. These are not hard things to do. We can't everyone digging up the side of the road in the name of fiber. The CS of IT is on this list, maybe he could shed more light<br></div><br style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 09:35, Job Muriuki via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Harry,<div dir="auto">Do you live in Kenya? What you just explained has been happening for years now since the cost of leasing long term is too expensive as compared to building yours. </div><div dir="auto">NOFBI is another poorly implemented cable laid using tax payers money since getting service on it is too expensive and takes long to fix in case of cuts.</div><div dir="auto"> Look for the guys who dig the fiber and look at the number if existing cables and on further enquiry you find out only 10% per cable is in use. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 6 Sep 2018, 06:54 Harry Delano via kictanet, <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Just checking, is NOFB countrywide as well.., no..? If so, it's high time we map out our existing national Fiber coverage(reach/capacity) to avoid replicating what service providers have done all along, laying layers of Fiber alongside and atop each other to create an excessive glut of capacity that's going to waste at the moment.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Harry </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 00:05 Gabriel via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div id="m_9167708398630710026m_1049694224011829252m_3444086949057780643m_-337348801507455760compose-container" style="direction:ltr"><span><span content="Outlook Mobile for iOS"></span></span><div><div style="direction:ltr">KETRACO Chairman Eng. James Rege says the fiber capacity will be deployed countrywide and further into the northern neignours on their power lines. </div><div style="direction:ltr"><br></div><div style="direction:ltr">Huge undertaking, with what they are planning with their lastmile strategy...</div><div style="dir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The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br>
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