<div dir="ltr"><div>@ Jefferson,</div><div><br></div><div>Good points. It is actually cool nowadays to speak against morality because of its relativity. My humble request to you would be for you to look at the issue in light of the Matatu Industry in Nairobi that was asked to self regulate. Is this the best approach, going forwad it would be good for this conversation to be guided by some evidence based research. I am not sure its right to say Children are a minority and should be treated as such when the government is distributing millions of digital devices to our primary schools. The Universal Access Fund is also being used to connect schools to the Internet which will also expose more children to the Internet.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:07 PM, anyega jefferson via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:x-small">On morality, we should recognize that children are a relatively small consumer segment of Internet content as compared to adults. It is helpful to consider whether the target audience is a community of shared values or a market. In my personal view, we are increasingly just a market with different sub-segments, a minority of whom require protection as opposed to a community of shared values. Furthermore, it is important to ensure content regulation does not institutionalize political correctness. The clamor for safe spaces is injurious in its attempts to muzzle any content which violates individual taste or beliefs. As a result, maybe a common sense approach in self-regulation is better. For example, would i be embarrassed if this content reaches my grandmother? </div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:58 PM, anyega jefferson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeffersonanyega@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffersonanyega@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:x-small">We should also consider the role of the media type on the content regulation adopted. For instance, should visual, audio and written content be subjected to the same standard or different ones. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_147239509164892674h5">On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Grace Bomu via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_147239509164892674h5">Two concepts that have dominated recent debates at least on this list are paternalism (decision makers taking away the power of the public to make choices) and agreed norms in the society. For example, a public authority basing decisions on the notion that "western" values are bad for Kenyan society and therefore removing/restricting some content from the public domain. <div>Defining what our collective values, which would guide how far authorities can regulate content is often a pull between generations, classes, rural versus urban folk and religious inclinations. </div><div>It would help if spaces where most content is viewed promoted content that is generally closer to agreed values in our society. For example, at one point the issue was absence of local content. Through many initiatives and policies such as local websites for government offices and use of technology for public relations, we are now seeing more local content.</div><div>It is therefore baffling that instead of nurturing this trend, authorities would attempt to curtail it by introducing taxes and other regulatory controls. <div><div class="m_147239509164892674m_6070045907254189037h5"><br><div><br><br>Il martedì 10 luglio 2018, Wilson Muroki via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> ha scritto:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I believe the issue of morality is a difficult one to agree upon. What could be immoral to one person could be perfectly okay with another. So where do we draw the line and whose moral compass will we base the regulations on?<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Wilson Muroki Njino<br>Tel: +254 721 991098<br>Office +254 730 911125<br>Email: <a href="mailto:wnmuroki@gmail.com" target="_blank">wnmuroki@gmail.com</a></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:02 PM kanini mutemi via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><span style="font-size:14px">@Cecilia I echo your questions. The issue of morality was introduced above as a reason why content regulation is important. I note that we have never quite agreed on the issue of morality on this list. </span><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><font color="#ff40ff">How do you then balance the freedom of opinion and expression with the need to control what people produce and consume? </font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"><font color="#ff40ff">Is there perhaps a test we can apply when determining whether content regulation is a desired approach? </font></span><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:49, cmaundu--- via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Hello listers </span><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">I have two questions </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">1. Where do you draw the line between content regulation and freedom of expression? </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">2. Where do you draw the line between content regulation and net neutrality? <br><br><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:29 PM, carolyne mimano via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto">Thats where ISP's are liable in my opinion and more community policing</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, 12:27 pm Ronald Ojino via kictanet, <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Hi Kanini et al.</div><span style="font-size:small;float:none;display:inline">In my opinion,content regulation is healthy for any society. It aids in reducing moral decadence that could be brought about with the unregulated space. However, is content filtering sufficient in ensuring that only the correct content is viewed especially with freely availed WiFi at many locations even though parents try to utilize Parental Control Software at home, Imagine situations where some access pornography at places of worship!!</span><span style="font-size:small;float:none;display:inline"> </span><div style="font-size:small">Is filtering access at public spaces also the way to go?</div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:18 PM, kanini mutemi via kictanet<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kicta<wbr>net.or.ke</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><span style="font-size:14px">We can also give examples of recent content regulation efforts by our government. <br></span><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:16, Peter Wakaba via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif">Content regulation is the creation, setting and enforcement of parameters within which various stakeholders in the content ecosystem engage with this content. Content in this context is then simply information which is transmitted and stored and received through various platforms and infrastructure.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM, carolyne mimano via kictanet<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kicta<wbr>net.or.ke</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hello listers,<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">As we dive more into content regulation we should maybe also focus on:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Why content is regulated?</div><div dir="auto">- Copyright reasons,obscene content, bullying and hate speech(causing harm to others) security, human dignity, privacy.</div><div dir="auto">-The different kinds of content-online content, traditional media etc</div><div dir="auto">For online content how different countries/governments are trying to regulate online content e.g self filtering, internet service providers or anyone that has access to blocking offensive material but fails to do so.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kind regards</div><div dir="auto">Carolyne</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, 9:53 am cmaundu--- via kictanet, <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="auto">Hello Listers, <div><br></div><div>Content regulation, is basically content restrictions or monitoring as required by governments or regulatory bodies. <br><div><br><br><div><br>On 10 Jul 2018, at 9:26 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="font-size:14px">Hello Listers, </span><div><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">I’ll start us off with the discussion on Content Regulation on the internet. I find it useful for us to first understand what content regulation means. 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