<div dir="auto">Good points Ali on using available data centers.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But how will we make our Billion$$$ as tenderprenuers if we go for PaaS, SaaS, Clouds, and leasing.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">NB:</div><div dir="auto"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;line-height:inherit;font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;background:none rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(34,34,34)">Platform as a Service</b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> (</span><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;line-height:inherit;font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;background:none rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(34,34,34)">PaaS</b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">) or </span><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;line-height:inherit;font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;background:none rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(34,34,34)">application platform as a Service</b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> (</span><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;line-height:inherit;font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;background:none rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(34,34,34)">aPaaS</b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">) or platform base service is a category of </span><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Service_models" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;line-height:inherit;font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;background:none rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(90,54,150)">cloud computing services</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> that provides a </span><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing_platform" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;line-height:inherit;font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;background:none rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(90,54,150)">platform</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,"nimbus sans l",arial,"liberation sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> allowing customers to develop, run, and manage applications without the complexity of building and maintaining the infrastructure typically associated with developing and launching an app.</span><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 11:37 AM Mwendwa Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">James Muritu,</span><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">At least the media has tried to report, and give accounts from a side they have heard. Yours on the other hand are speculations on "vested interests". Is there anybody at KNH you know that has blocked the project? </span></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 10:42 AM Adam Lane via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I'm not sure I can comment on the data centre specifically, but I believe the project is much more than that. It is about the medical records software, servers and connectivity at the 98 hospitals so they can send radiology images to be viewed remotely (at
KNH). The data centre at KNH would be to store images there and provide remote diagnosis.<br>
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<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>From:</b>Ali Hussein</div>
<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>To:</b>KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</div>
<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>Cc:</b>Adam Lane</div>
<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>Date:</b>2018-07-04 10:34:10</div>
<div style="word-break:break-all"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [kictanet] Sh4.7 billion health data technology in limbo</div>
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<div>Honestly guys I think this whole conversation is missing the point.
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<span style="font-size:12pt">Does the country need more Data Centres? I bet you between Angani, Node Africa, Safaricom and East Africa Data Centre we can house ALL the data we have. And then some. I challenge ANYONE to contradict me with numbers. </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt">What is the current capacity visavis usage? </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt">Anyone has those numbers? </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt">What is more urgent? </span><span style="font-size:12pt">Policy driven reform of the health sector? Health Information and Portability legislation or more Hardware? </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt">Let us be serious as a country and stop this rubbish of Procurement Driven G2C Services as opposed to Service Driven. We are mortgaging this country for nonsensical projects.</span></p>
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On 4 Jul 2018, at 10:02 AM, Adam Lane via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Just to clarify, I’m not blaming anyone or commenting on any implementor, just sharing the business daily article as it is pertinent
to the previous conversation, and also sharing my opinion on the KNH tender document itself.</span><span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> James Muritu [<a href="mailto:james.muritu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mailto:james.muritu@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 04, 2018 9:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adam Lane <<a href="mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">adam.lane@huawei.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Sh4.7 billion health data technology in limbo</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would be hesitant to blindly blame HCIT Implementor on this project delivery saga and it's key we think beyond the parameters coming to the fore. I have seen a typical case in Kenya of the Systems Implementer being blamed whilst forgetting
about other forces that might be at play behind the scenes. For one, KNH is a parastatal that would want to flex muscle vis a vis getting orders from MOH. Secondly, there could be a case of vested interests, as typical with a myriad of public sector projects
in Kenya. Let's think beyond what's being propagated out there by the media.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Adam Lane via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:</p>
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not clear that the HCIT project is going ahead. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">On another note the KNH tender document was almost impossible for anyone to deliver on, was too ambitious and almost unachievable.
If such a system could do everything they wanted it would arguably be very (too) expensive!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> kictanet [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Badam.lane" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+adam.lane</a>=<a href="mailto:huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Indeje via kictanet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 27, 2018 6:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adam Lane <<a href="mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">adam.lane@huawei.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Indeje <<a href="mailto:davidindeje@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">davidindeje@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Sh4.7 billion health data technology in limbo</span></p>
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<p>Health care is a devolved function in Kenya. However, certain health service remain the role of the national government and these include; health policy, financing, national referral hospitals, quality assurance and standards, health information, communication
and technology, national public health laboratories, public-private partnerships, monitoring and evaluation, planning and budgeting for national health service and maintenance of services provided by Kenya Medical Supplies Agency, National hospital Insurance
Fund, Kenya Medical Training College and Kenya Medical Research Institute.</p>
<p>In the devolved government, the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjxzK_5_pfWAhVEXRQKHW0CDfMQFgguMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpublications.universalhealth2030.org%2Fref%2Fd6e32af10e5c515876d34f801774aa9a&usg=AFQjCNHtt1vGOai9uOmg6Z1ztEaXZixZ2w" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Kenya
Health Policy 2014-2030</a>provides guidance to the health sector in terms of identifying and outlining the requisite activities in achieving the government’s health goals.</p>
<p>It provides an institutional framework and structure that specifies the new institutional and management arrangements required under the devolved system.</p>
<p>It also acknowledges the need for new governance and management arrangements at both levels of government and outlines governance objectives as delivery of efficient, cost effective and equitable health services, devolution of health service delivery, administration
and management to the community level, stakeholder participation and accountability in health service delivery.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It would be interesting for us to understand this project. In light of the fact that we have NOFBI in place what are the components of this project? i also think the project requires a data protection framework since it will be
dealing with Health information which is really personal. My question is has the ministry of ICT or ICTA been involved in any way to shed some light on the project.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't think this kind of project should just be left to the Ministry of Health, no wonder based on the article the contractor is facing many challenges that should have been taken care of during the System Analysis and Design
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