<div dir="ltr">Hi Job,<div><br></div><div>I have looped some IP topdogs on this. Hoping they'll honor the looping and give their views.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 May 2018 at 12:31, Job Muriuki via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><img width="0" height="0" class="m_2342883934617631744mailtrack-img" alt="" style="display:flex" src="https://mailtrack.io/trace/mail/20b05b8059fa1a4cf8d00fe2b4f6a4a9c2225404.png?u=1528720"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(32,18,77)">Why loose and you will have more bandwidth to sell locally and we keep as much bandwidth local as possible. </div></div><span class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d"><br></div><div class="m_2342883934617631744mt-signature">
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<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Collins Areba <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com" target="_blank">arebacollins@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Who stands to lose the most should everyone peer at , say 200G locally? considering google and akamai are already in the country. </div>
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On 3 May 2018, 12:21 PM +0300, Job Muriuki via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>, wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(32,18,77)">Anyone here from Tespok or CA shed some light.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="color:rgb(75,75,75);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I have a question on what governs local ISP peering in Kenya. There is KIXP at EADC which was set up so to keep local traffic local. Is it open to international carriers like Seacom, Tata, Etisalat, Hurricane electric, China Telkom and others who are present at EADC?</span></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="color:rgb(75,75,75);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="color:rgb(75,75,75);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">The reason I ask is if you take service, IP transit service from any of the carriers and you are not peering at KIXP your IPs (Local traffic) go all the way to either France or UAE and back to Kenya while they could have just peered at KIXP and offer faster and "affordable" connections. It makes no sense for a connection to</span> <span class="m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_ m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_855 m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr-alert m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_spell m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_inline_cards m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_run_anim m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-ContextualSpelling m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-ins-del m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-multiReplace" id="m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-855" style="display:inline;color:rgb(75,75,75);font-size:15px;border-bottom:2px solid transparent;background-repeat:no-repeat;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">ecitizen</span> <span style="color:rgb(75,75,75);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">or a server hosted locally at say Node Africa to have to go to IXPs in other countries and brought back to Kenya getting treated and charged as international traffic.</span></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="color:rgb(75,75,75);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="color:rgb(75,75,75);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Is KIXP that unreliable or what is the challenge? If we don't grow our local capacity to deliver gigabit speeds in our IXP and take advantage of CDNs available locally, will we ever fully</span> <span class="m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_ m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_2025 m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr-alert m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_spell m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_inline_cards m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-gr_run_anim m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-ContextualSpelling m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-multiReplace" id="m_2342883934617631744m_3870738823647694239gmail-2025" style="display:inline;color:rgb(75,75,75);font-size:15px;border-bottom:2px solid transparent;background-repeat:no-repeat;font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">utilise</span> <span style="color:rgb(75,75,75);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">the internet and create jobs at the same time without having multinationals come do it?</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="color:rgb(75,75,75);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Currently getting a data pipe from point A to B over a fiber connection within Kenya is more expensive than getting an internet connection from the same provider which will be carried on the same fiber link as the data pipe which makes absorption of hosting services in Kenya way expensive compared to hosting servers in Europe or America. Most Kenyans and even some government agencies result in hosting services overseas and the users are in Kenya then what is the point of investing in fiber locally and have it rot underground while cash is sent to companies out there for a service we can provide locally?</span></div>
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