<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">@Kennedy<div><br></div><div>You got that right. The auction is not connected to the main core registry system.</div><div><br></div><div>In the scheme of things we ought to commend KeNIC and the CA (Communication Authority) for responding promptly to issues of public interest. This can only improve their engagement and performance in relation to the public. I wish I could say the same regarding the team behind the eCiziten Portal.</div><div><br></div><div>@Sidney you raised a pertinent issue on possible fraud and leakage. Mine is to ask for clarification from KeNIC on this issue.</div><div><br></div><div>1. Was anyone who bid and won a domain denied it and given to someone else? </div><div>2. Since we know no system in the world is 100% full proof it would be good to get an assurance from KeNIC on what happens next. </div><div><br></div><div>@Barrack, I applaud your bringing to attention the privacy angle. There’s zero excuse for someone to peddle a document with personal information the way this document was circulated. Respect of personal privacy is an important matter in today’s world. 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Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 26 Jan 2018, at 10:15 AM, Kennedy Aseda via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Harry,<div><br></div><div>1. Why would the second level domain system, <b>supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere)</b>, cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed.</div><div><i>I think the system KeNIC is referring to here is the auction system - not the registry itself.</i></div><div><br></div><div>Thereafter, when auction closed; my understanding from the two communications is that the bulk deletion from the registry of the SLDs that were reserved but not paid for caused erroneous deletion of nameservers from the registry database.</div><div><br></div><div>Kennedy.</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Harry Delano via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hey Abdalla,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for the attached response, have gone through it. Some queries still linger:-</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like what was witnessed.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2. How foolproof, or what measures were taken to ward off rigging or 'defective' bids in the system. A cursory look at the list of bidders, if at all authentic seems to indicate most of those email addresses are foreign, and very few of them on the local . KE domain space. How ironical..?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">3. It almost sounds incredulous that one bid reached KES 1,000,0000,038. Would love to look forward to when that gets paid up, please keep us posted..</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Harry</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail-h5">On 26 Jan 2018 08:23, "Abdalla via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail-h5"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>Dear Listers,</div><div><br></div><div>Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you.</div><div><br></div><br><div>
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</div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="gmail-"><div>On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <<a href="mailto:sidney.ochieng@gmail.com" target="_blank">sidney.ochieng@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_-953274929914998708m_6465788296774412111Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div><div class="gmail-h5"><div><div dir="ltr">Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br class="gmail-m_-953274929914998708m_6465788296774412111webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p dir="ltr">Dear Sidney,</p><p dir="ltr">I have read your email.</p><p dir="ltr">I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.</p><p dir="ltr">As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.</p><p dir="ltr">Thank you.</p><p dir="ltr">Regards,</p><p dir="ltr">Abdalla<br><br><br><br><br></p><div class="gmail-m_-953274929914998708m_6465788296774412111HOEnZb"><div class="gmail-m_-953274929914998708m_6465788296774412111h5"><p dir="ltr">On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
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> There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time. <br>
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