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<body>Thanks Grace for taking us down memory lane. <br><br>See Wangusi's viewpoint on what constitues an Independence Regulator. This was eight (8) years ago when he was not at the helm:<br><h1 style="font-family: "Times New Roman";"><b style="font-size: medium;">Wangusi, Francis</b><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;"> </span><a href="mailto:kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bkictanet%5D%20Independent%20Communications%20Commission%20ofKenya-Policy%0A%09Process&In-Reply-To=%3CEA7B65B9350B1745BC04CC9E5DCE029802B79025%40hq-msg-01.CCK%3E" title="[kictanet] Independent Communications Commission ofKenya-Policy Process" style="font-size: medium;">Wangusi at cck.go.ke </a></h1><i style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">Wed Nov 17 13:21:30 EAT 2010</i><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;"></span><p style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;"></p><ul style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;"><li>Previous message: <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/031781.html">[kictanet] Independent Communications Commission ofKenya-Policy Process</a></li><li>Next message: <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/031769.html">[kictanet] Independent Communications Commission of Kenya</a></li><li><b>Messages sorted by:</b> <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/date.html#31776">[ date ]</a> <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/thread.html#31776">[ thread ]</a> <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/subject.html#31776">[ subject ]</a> <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/author.html#31776">[ author ]</a></li></ul><hr style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;"><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Hi Folks,
May I take this opportunity to sway you away from the monotony of discussing where the next forum for deliberating on the two bills should be to the real issues in the two bills. The two bills are for the creation of independent institutions of the Media Council and the Independent Communications Commission of Kenya. I must pat the drafters of these two bills on their backs for having identified the actual areas of concern and their attempts to realign them with articles 34 (3) & (5) of the constitution. It is important for us to address the issues raised in this bills in an attempt to come up with bills that will guarantee the existence of a wide range of independent and autonomous media in the broadcasting sub-sector. of course proportionate regulation is essential to guarantee the freedom of media while at the same time ensuring a balance between that freedom and other legitimate rights and interests. Perhaps most importantly in order to preserve broadcasting as part of the democratic process, we should aim at creating independence in regulatory institutions dealing with broadcasting in the sector. the question that begs in the minds of many is who is real an independent regulator? According to Eva Solomon, an independent regulator can be obtained by using the following criteria;
· Means of appointment: should be clearly set out in law and should be done in a democratic and transparent manner.
· Remit of the regulatory authority: duties and responsibilities of an independent regulator should be clearly set out in law as should the means through which they will be held accountable.
· Terms for termination of appointment: one of the most invidious ways in which a regulatory authority can be subject to political pressure and influence is through the threat of dismissal. Thus the law must state clearly the factors which may lead to dismissal.
· Funding: funding can be used as a means of exerting political pressure. Terms of funding should be set out in law, and whenever possible be kept separate from any potential political interference.
· Conflicts of interest: apart from being independent of political forces, members of the regulatory authority must be free from any potential personal conflict of interest with the broadcasting sector.
Perhaps, based on the above arguments, folks; you can analyze the two bills and see if they actually meet the above criteria and/or propose appropriate changes in order to expedite the process before the next forum. I want to propose that in order to overcome the potential contravention of chapter 15 of the new constitution, the Independent Communications Commission of Kenya be named Independent Communications Regulatory Authority of Kenya (ICRAK).
From: kictanet-bounces+wangusi=<a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">cck.go.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+wangusi=<a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">cck.go.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On Behalf Of Walubengo J
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To: Wangusi, Francis
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Independent Communications Commission ofKenya-Policy Process
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<br><br><br>On Wednesday, 24-01-2018 at 20:09 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet wrote:<br><blockquote style="border:0;border-left: 2px solid #22437f; padding:0px; margin:0px; padding-left:5px; margin-left: 5px; "><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Kelvin, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please refer to the thread "independent Communications Commission of Kenya" that gives diverse views on what independence means (for example, functional and financial independence) and how in the end, the communications law was amended. This background supports the points that Jaindi is raising that interdependence between the Authority and Ministry should only be at policy and not financial level. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thread starts here <a target="_blank" class="blue" href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/031757.html">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/031757.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 Jan 2018 10:48 am, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">@Kevin</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I like your response. The interplay between independence and interdependence. <img src="/views/Extjs3/themes/Group-Office/images/emoticons/normal/smile.gif" alt=":-)"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I fully agree with you.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">I have one issue though and this is one of <b>Corporate Governance</b>. The monies we are talking about are not small change in the scheme of things. A million here and 25 million there..This adds up.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">No organization worth its salt should be run 'Kiholela' like that. With all due respect to the Mandarins at the MOICT. They should know better. The right way to do things is to sit with the CA and have a discussion at the end of every year as to which activities they would like CA to fund. These then should be consolidated and ExComm (Executive Committee of the Senior Management Team at CA) presents this to the Board of Directors for ratification and it becomes a budget item and above board.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">The CA is a critical institution and the goings on there smack of machinations to control the billions that CA has in its budget. It's wrong for MOICT to treat the CA budget as its personal piggy bank/slush fund. The MOICT has a vote. Let it live within its means like we all do. And in case they are unable to the paragraph before this should be a guideline on how to go about it so that no one is exposed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Lastly, I also think what the Director General did, if the reporting has any truth to it is wrong. He simply should not have the power to approve extra-judicial budget items. This leaves him vulnerable later to manipulation. Let there be clear procedures on how these things are done. At the Boards that I sit in that in itself is a firing offence. Let us not expose our heads of government agencies to such manipulation. It is akin to abuse of power by MOICT. It simply is not acceptable.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I am eagerly waiting for the report of the audit that is being currently conducted. This and the responses thereafter will give a clear indication of the situation at the CA.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">As for the letters regarding the request of funds, I do not find any issue with this. The only condition is that these funds must be accounted for and even better a report written about the official activities that were attended to by whom, where and also what returns are to be gained from the engagements. And further follow up until the intended goals are achieved.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Our institutions need to be independent, yes. They are also inter-dependent. Having the PSs of the ICT or other Ministries does not have to be bad thing. It in fact can serve as a way to expedite decision making and enhance cooperation - basically doing away with inter-institutional bureaucracy. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Regards,<br></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Kevin</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298h5">On 24 January 2018 at 13:06, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298h5"><div dir="ltr">Listers,<br><br><section class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714m_6930035078382893289gmail-article-sidebar">
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<h4>In Summary</h4>
<div><ul><li>Surely, somebody must be made to answer for those letters.</li><li>This is the sector that gave Kenya global leadership in mobile banking.</li></ul></div></section>
<a target="_blank" class="blue" href="https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/To-save-CA-from-bullies-restore-its-autonomy-and-independence/440808-4275382-a055q6/index.html">https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/<wbr>opinion/To-save-CA-from-bullie<wbr>s-restore-its-autonomy-and-ind<wbr>ependence/440808-4275382-a055q<wbr>6/index.html</a><br><br></section><section class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714m_6930035078382893289gmail-article-sidebar">PS. Its sad to see what is happening at CA because we debated extensively on this list the process that gave it its autonomy. I am confident the team at the helm of the ministry has what it takes to put us back on the correct path.<br><br></section><section class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714m_6930035078382893289gmail-article-sidebar">Regards<span class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></section><span class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br>-- <br><div class="gmail-m_-1009831480261430051m_-2802377710463436298m_5905103668179730714m_6930035078382893289gmail_signature">Barrack O. Otieno<br><a href="tel:+254%20721%20325277" value="+254721325277" target="_blank">+254721325277</a><br><a href="tel:+254%20733%20206359" value="+254733206359" target="_blank">+254733206359</a><br>Skype: barrack.otieno<br>PGP ID: 0x2611D86A<br> <br><br><br><br></div>
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