<div dir="auto">CS Mucheru,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for your reply. I like to think solutions. Bwana CS, I consider this statement a good challenge to the industry </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">“<span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">As it stands, what position has the industry given to us policy makers?”</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">We shall reach out to your office for some assistance in getting organized as an industry. I request that you assist us then, to the best of your ability. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Kind regards</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Bernard Kioko</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 at 13:45, Joseph Mucheru via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Wow! Such bitterness...<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have pronounced myself on various occasions on Net Neutrality. It's unfair to say we in MOICT ignore this topic. As it stands, what position has the industry given to us policy makers?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As regards the policy, it is at Cabinet awaiting approval alongside other bills and policies.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It will be interesting to know how we at MOICT are playing around with your livelihoods as well..</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">JM</div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 Dec 2017 09:04, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-2195228589054314464quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div>Bernard<div><br></div><div>The answer depends on who you ask.</div><div><br></div><div>1. KITOS</div><div>2. TESPOK </div><div>3. ICTAK ( That of the ICT Practitioners Bill shame)</div><div>4. KICTANET</div><div>5. KEPSA</div><div><br></div><div>At this point your guess is as good as mine. Which brings me to the question why this case maybe. Why we don’t have an association that can engage Government meaningfully. We, all of us, have ourselves to blame. Each of us is so focused in their own little cocoons and speak with no single voice that the Mandarins and Apparatchiks at MOICT can and will continue to play around with our livelihoods.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards <div class="m_-2195228589054314464quoted-text"><br><br><div id="m_-2195228589054314464m_1997046870676409724AppleMailSignature"><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><a href="tel:+254%20713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank">+254 0713 601113</a> </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div class="m_-2195228589054314464elided-text"><div><br>On 15 Dec 2017, at 7:24 AM, Bernard Kioko <<a href="mailto:bkioko@bernsoft.com" target="_blank">bkioko@bernsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Thank you Ali. <br><br>Reading your response has got me wondering, as an industry which organization/association do we use to lobby ?<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 at 07:19, Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div>Bernard<div><br></div><div>We in Africa first need to acknowledge Net Neutrality as a concept. Today ONLY one country in Africa (Senegal) has even attempted to enact policy and regulation around it. We have ways to go. </div><div><br></div><div>Kenya, with all our advances have turned a blind eye to it. We need to wake up. This list has consistently for the last 5 years talked about the need to address this issue from a policy and regulatory framework.</div><div><br></div><div>We have been met with utter silence. The first time this issue was mentioned was in the defunct/dead as a dodo/aborted ICT Policy 2016. And we know (or rather don’t know!) what happened to that document. </div><div><br></div><div>My take? </div><div><br></div><div>The free for all, do what you want and we (regulator and policy makers) will just watch helplessly coz after all Net Neutrality is a foreign concept. We don’t understand it. And neither are we bothered. Let the Googles, Facebooks and Netflixes of this world fight it out with their FCC. </div><div><br></div><div>It doesn’t affect us..<br><br><div id="m_-2195228589054314464m_1997046870676409724m_-695135884817297523AppleMailSignature"><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><a href="tel:+254%20713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank">+254 0713 601113</a> </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><div><div><br>On 15 Dec 2017, at 6:30 AM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-explainer/index.html" target="_blank">http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-explainer/index.html</a><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Interested to see thoughts on how this affects Kenya. I am thinking maybe hosting locally could avoid this, which would mean growth for local...<br><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>
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