<div dir="auto">Noted with thanks Barrack, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Definitely something that needs to mature sooner rather than later. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 23, 2017 11:39 AM, "Barrack Otieno" <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Dorcas , hi Ali,<br><br></div>I think you are on the same page. I recall the last townhall meeting at Dusit which validated the blockchain policy brief was attended by a number of Stakeholders from all stakeholder groupings. That the CS Joe Mucheru alongside a number of officers from his ministry attended is testament to the interest and appreciation of the Government as a stakeholder in the technology. The list of participants in the meeting was multi stakeholder. Some Stakeholders such as the CBK Governor have been uneasy about Blockchain but seem to be warming up over time. In my humble opinion it would be good to build on the steps that have been made as we chart the way forwad. In 2016 blockchain was a key topic in the Kenya Internet Governance Forum attended by more than 250 stakeholders physically and many more remotely. A number of local block chain companies and experts participated in panels that interrogated the technology. It might be that what we are witnessing is the ripple effect of the awareness efforts created in the last three years. In the usual Kenyan spirit there are those that have decided to capitalize on the emerging technology. We are at a good place in that we can no longer bury our heads in the sand. Concrete actions or responses are needed from various stakeholders such as the government and independent regulatory agencies. They can tap into the feedback received from various Conferences hosted locally from 2016 as well as papers and policy briefs that have been written since then in consultation with the stakeholders. We don't need to reinvent the wheel since the bus is moving.<br><br></div>Best Regards<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks Ali, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have been with kictanet since it's birth so I definitely understand. I definitely appreciate the effort you have put. But we have not even scratched the surface on this one.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What is needed now is movement in terms of support for Blockchain and not hypervigilance as is being seen. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">While private sector players can be proactive, it will be a futile effort and a danger to investments if regulators and government come later with more restrictions in response. Hence the need for a repeat success story of kictanet as a multi-stakeholder forum.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think everyone is here in one way or the other. In essence, I am speaking of the need for a conducive policy environment and action needs to get to that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks! Muthoni </div></div><div class="m_-4157179362013629438HOEnZb"><div class="m_-4157179362013629438h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 23, 2017 11:03 AM, "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Dorcas</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">We at KICTANet can only provide direction, intellectual engagement and lobby to have a policy in place (not necessarily regulation) for this to be adopted by the Government and mainstream industry players. I would however add that players in the Startup Scene in Kenya and some big ticket players like IBM are not waiting. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">They are already moving ahead with a number of initiatives. I understand that there now exists the Blockchain Association of Kenya.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">And this is as it should be.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Check out the two links below to get a glimpse of whats happening.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">1. <a href="https://developer.ibm.com/blockchain/sandbox/" target="_blank">https://developer.ibm.com/bloc<wbr>kchain/sandbox/</a></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">2. <a href="https://ipdb.io/foundation/" target="_blank">https://ipdb.io/foundation/</a></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">Incidentally KICTANet is a Founder Caretaker of the IPDB Foundation.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif">Regards</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_-4157179362013629438m_6188648432558592648m_599726187932787665gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font size="2" face="georgia, serif">Ali
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmuthoni@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmuthoni@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">The arrest of the individuals is a good opportunity to move the conversation to the next level. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Engagement towards implementation of an actual policy in a multi-stakeholder approach. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Having the document on the website is good but action time is now. BTC is more adopted and provides a good example on the disruptions expected from Blockchain. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What is the actual roadmap Ali to achieving this? We need this to move forward. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks! </div></div><div class="m_-4157179362013629438m_6188648432558592648m_599726187932787665gmail-HOEnZb"><div class="m_-4157179362013629438m_6188648432558592648m_599726187932787665gmail-h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 23, 2017 10:39 AM, "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">@Dorcas and others</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">This list is ahead in trying to formulate a way forward on this most current conversation. My take is this:-</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Conversations around Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies cannot be held in isolation of the core Technology driving this revolution. This Technology is called Blockchain.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Please check out the policy brief that KICTANet did in collaboration with various stakeholders including MOICT, IBM, Tech entrepreneurs and other stakeholders.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><a href="https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf" target="_blank"><br></a></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><a href="https://www.kictanet.or.ke/documents/KICTANet/Blockchain_Policy_Brief.Final.October.2017.pdf" target="_blank">KICTANet Blockchain Policy Brief</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">I agree Dorcas. The conversation must be expanded and a critical path mapped.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-4157179362013629438m_6188648432558592648m_599726187932787665gmail-m_6453063535721922749m_-4225582529886419848gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font size="2" face="georgia, serif">Ali
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi listers,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Going by some events connected to arrest of some BTC traders, time is ripe for a new policy engagement exercise.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Over to you Alice Munyua!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It reminds me of the days when VoIP and Skype specifically was illegal.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We cannot refuse that the fourth industrial revolution is on and rolling. What happened to the initial discussions on this? </div><span class="m_-4157179362013629438m_6188648432558592648m_599726187932787665gmail-m_6453063535721922749m_-4225582529886419848HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Muthoni </div></font></span></div></div>
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