<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6768"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">Good afternoon!</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6835"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6921"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">Barrack, I suspect your MPESA is not yet so good as to have some accidental algorithms that push some loose currency $$$$ arbitrarily to you and not to others as the new media is said to do in its business model.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_8108"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6964" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">The goodness or otherwise of the new media especially discussed in relation to governance is that it is a new form of (cyber) government that projects itself to be driven by the human people while at the hindsight and in reality, it is driven by business motives. The famed algorithms come here - perhaps may be said to define the governance system, at times reflecting society and other times normalising some ways by promoting them. An area that elected human Governments and citizens will continue to grapple with. <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_9623"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_9731"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">We have instances of the enterprises calling on to Governments and at times the citizenry - this is taken very positively. However normally when the Governments initiate for policy dialogue, it is viewed as infringing, stifling innovation etc. Thus the onus is on Governments building the enabling environment while clear that its mandate is to its citizens and national interests even to future generations.<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_8479"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_8624"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">While, it is clear that the algorithm is human programmed, thus what is the interest of this "Super Programmer" whom the rest of the world must rely on. <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_10105"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_8977"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">In light of internet democracy, with the expansiveness of the internet and relevance to the whole world, this must be the call for greater accountability with more people (nations) sitting on the table determining what this"Super Programmer" does - for the interests of all. Even as this is compounded by the consideration that this is private enterprise in a "free market". At what point do you become public interest?</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_10277"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_10445"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">This scenario is not unique but a global push to business in its value system.<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_7247"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_7249"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">Have a blessed day.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_7493"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_8010"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_6834">Regards/Wangari</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_7491"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_7486">---<br><font style="font-weight:bold;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_7489" size="2"><span style="color:rgb(127, 0, 63);">Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - </span><span style="color:rgb(127, 0, 63);" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1510141107977_7488">"Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".</span></font><br></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, 8 November 2017, 11:11, esther kamande via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv7391751348"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv7391751348gmail_default" style=""><div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(68,68,68);text-align:justify;"><font style="" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="">I agree Ali; the election period has raised a lot of
questions especially of the exercise of </span><span style="">freedom of speech (especially on fake news and hate speech) on social media to boost different political agendas. This also brought to light some of the issues
deeply dividing our society which can be a positive thing should we choose to learn and positively engage
on the same as opposed to burying our heads on the sand hoping the issues will disappear.
<span></span></span></font></div><div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(68,68,68);text-align:justify;"><font style="" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div>
<div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;"><font style="" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=""><font color="#444444">In an ideal society we would use such platforms only for good but that is not always the case. </font></span></font><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><font color="#444444">I do not blame the social media companies and further do not expect them to provide the solution as they are really not the problem, we are. At some point and for sustainability
purposes, we will have to look into filing the policy gaps resulting from new
technology, as Barrack suggested; for purposes of not only safeguarding them from would
be abusers but to secure them as opposed to hoping there will be less users in
the future or people will be less interested/will not believe what is online.</font></span><font style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;" color="#444444"> </font><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">At the end of the day, we are what we feed ourselves on whether we believe
it or not. </span></div><div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;"><font style="" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#444444"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#444444">Kind regards,</font></div><div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#444444"><br clear="none"></font></div><div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#444444">Esther Kamande</font></div><div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#444444"><br clear="none"></font></div><div class="yiv7391751348MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;"><font style="" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#444444"><br clear="none"></font></font></div></div><div class="yiv7391751348gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7391751348gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv7391751348gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>To add,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Technology platforms simply exponse gaps in Policy. It is upon the Citizenry through legislative Institutions to decide whether they want to fix the gaps or not. When mpesa (which i am yet to resist ) started there was no legal framework to support it. It was allowed to thrive based on Public Interest.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Regards<br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv7391751348HOEnZb"><div class="yiv7391751348h5"><div class="yiv7391751348gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7391751348gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv7391751348gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Ali,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Are you suggesting that we blame the printing press for propaganda and mwakenya's? , the answer is no, people are always the problem, technology is just a medium. History is never complete without tells of people who solved puzzles and cracked codes to secure victory over their competitors. As Frenchman Jean Baptise Alphonse Karr The more things change the more they remain the same (plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose :-))<br clear="none"><h3 class="yiv7391751348m_-6016626176838251275m_1593788107515076670gmail-western" align="center"><span style="font-weight:normal;"><br clear="none"></span>
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<h3><span class="yiv7391751348m_-6016626176838251275m_1593788107515076670gmail-mw-headline" id="yiv7391751348m_-6016626176838251275m_1593788107515076670gmail-Proverb"></span></h3><div><strong class="yiv7391751348m_-6016626176838251275m_1593788107515076670gmail-Latn yiv7391751348m_-6016626176838251275m_1593788107515076670gmail-headword" lang="fr"><br clear="none"></strong></div></div><div class="yiv7391751348gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv7391751348gmail_quote"><span>On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:01 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> ></span> wrote:<br clear="none"></span><blockquote class="yiv7391751348gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="yiv7391751348m_-6016626176838251275h5"><div><div>Listers</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>An interesting article from the economist. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div style=""><span style="font-style:italic;text-align:center;">Facebook, Google and Twitter were supposed to save politics as good information drove out prejudice and falsehood. Something has gone very wrong</span></div><div style=""><span style="font-style:italic;text-align:center;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="font-style:italic;text-align:center;">Read on:-</span></div><div><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21730871-facebook-google-and-twitter-were-supposed-save-politics-good-information-drove-out">https://www.economist.com/news /leaders/21730871-facebook-goo gle-and-twitter-were-supposed- save-politics-good-information -drove-out</a></div><div><br clear="none"></div>What are your thoughts from a local perspective? <div><br clear="none"></div><div>After one of the most highly contentious electioneering periods in Kenya’s history some hard questions need to be asked. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">1. Is Ezekiel Mutua after all a visionary in his assertions about Social Media? </div><div>2. Have we allowed ourselves to be further divided by these platforms instead of using them to bring us closer together?</div><div>3, Have we allowed politicians and other influencers to literally take our freedoms to do what’s right?</div><div>4, Shouldn’t the whole world - State and Non-State Players - have taken Internet Governance (especially the Third Party Liability conversation) more seriously?</div><div>5. Is it too late to redeem ourselves?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>These and more are important issues to ponder.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards </div><div><br clear="none"><div id="yiv7391751348m_-6016626176838251275m_1593788107515076670m_34418599325560986AppleMailSignature"><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">+254 0713 601113</a> </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;"><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></div><span style=""><font></font></span><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="">Skype: abu-jomo</span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="">LinkedIn: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim">http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim</a></span></div><font><br clear="none"></font></div><div><span style="">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></div></div><br clear="none"></div></div><span>______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">
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