<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff">IEBC constitutionally mandate to declare results.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff">Kenya is governed by Public Opinion NOT Constitution.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff">Raila Odinga has destroyed the IEBC's election arbiter role in the Court of Public Opinion.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff">Therefore it matters not what the Constitution says but what or who will own the Court of Public Opinion on August 9th.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff">It is it or them that will determine the winner. Brace yourselves.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:#0000ff">Yasin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 10:45 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send kictanet mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Gov't threatens to shut media houses announcingelection<br>
results - <a href="http://Citizentv.co.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Citizentv.co.ke</a> (Francis Monyango)<br>
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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 10:44:47 +0300<br>
From: Francis Monyango <<a href="mailto:monyango93@gmail.com">monyango93@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses<br>
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I wonder why so much reference is made to 2007/8 elections yet we had an<br>
election under the new constitution in 2013 which was peaceful. All these<br>
new guidelines and information controls are raising tensions for nothing.<br>
The IEBC is the referee and not the cameraman on the sidelines. They have<br>
the final say on who the winner is, not the cameraman.<br>
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On 29 Jul 2017 23:16, "Liz Orembo via kictanet" <<br>
<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Results announced at the constituency level are official and final.<br>
> What's wrong with tallying?<br>
><br>
> The media, including online communities can tally but it is the IEBC's<br>
> role to declare. This was also echoed during the KIGF by the IEBC rep.<br>
><br>
> On Jul 29, 2017 10:19 PM, "Deborah via kictanet" <<br>
> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello,<br>
>><br>
>> On Thursday I attended an observers' briefing at Bomas. It was meant to<br>
>> start at 11 but started at around 11:45. The only Kenyan media house I<br>
>> spotted was Citizen which came in at around 12:45 after the briefing by the<br>
>> commissioners. They only caught the plenary session. I wouldn't be<br>
>> surprised if that is what happened at this function.<br>
>><br>
>> Concerning the tallying, IEBC stated the media would be streaming the<br>
>> results real-time as it receives them. IEBC is clear that only one<br>
>> announcement will be made on the winner, and it is the only one to make<br>
>> that announcement. I believe this is what they are guarding against,<br>
>> premature announcements.<br>
>><br>
>> Deborah<br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>> From: kanini mutemi via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>><br>
>> Sent: ?29/?07/?2017 20:35<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com">deborah.wanjugu@gmail.com</a><br>
>> Cc: kanini mutemi <<a href="mailto:kaninimutemi@gmail.com">kaninimutemi@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses<br>
>> announcingelection results - <a href="http://Citizentv.co.ke" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Citizentv.co.ke</a><br>
>><br>
>> @Ali like you I am also curious on this insistence on 'Tally but do not<br>
>> announce'.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Davis Onsakia via kictanet <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> The IEBC have indicated that the results will be on their portal as<br>
>>> announced at the constituency tallying centre.<br>
>>><br>
>>> What's wrong with a media house picking that and just doing some simple<br>
>>> arithmetic? And of course attributing the source of the figures to IEBC,<br>
>>> unless there's something sinister somebody is trying on Kenyans.<br>
>>><br>
>>> My only hope is that the CS was either misquoted or his words taken out<br>
>>> of context, as indicated by Ali.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> Davis Onsakia<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 8:00 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Dorcas<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> That was the beginning of what we now call 'Fake News' depending on<br>
>>>> which part of the political divide one was standing it.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The point remains. You CANNOT threaten news media for carrying genuine<br>
>>>> news and results. Those who do must of course be prepared for the full<br>
>>>> force of the law.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *Ali Hussein*<br>
>>>> *Principal*<br>
>>>> *Hussein & Associates*<br>
>>>> +254 0713 601113<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Skype: abu-jomo<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/<wbr>alihkassim</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but<br>
>>>> a habit." ~ Aristotle<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 7:32 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Ali,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I think you know in 2008 a certain media attempt to be first caused<br>
>>>> lots of problems. I can assure I would like the CS to act very tough this<br>
>>>> time.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The onus is on the media houses and bloggers to abind responsibly.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Jul 29, 2017 7:22 PM, "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Dorcas<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever<br>
>>>>> purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should<br>
>>>>> announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies.<br>
>>>>> Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and<br>
>>>>> concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on<br>
>>>>> its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly?<br>
>>>>> Any Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make<br>
>>>>> their own tallies.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing<br>
>>>>> results? What are we missing here? There is just too much pressure and<br>
>>>>> focus to curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember<br>
>>>>> that. And our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information.<br>
>>>>> Let us leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context?<br>
>>>>> #JustAsking..<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*<br>
>>>>> *Principal*<br>
>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*<br>
>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/<wbr>alihkassim</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act<br>
>>>>> but a habit." ~ Aristotle<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the<br>
>>>>> CS. Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the<br>
>>>>> official record. Only IEBC has the mandate.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Jul 29, 2017 4:13 PM, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> This doesn't sound right. Two steps forwad one back.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet<br>
>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> <a href="https://citizentv.co.ke/news/govt-threatens-to-shut-media-ho" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://citizentv.co.ke/news/<wbr>govt-threatens-to-shut-media-<wbr>ho</a><br>
>>>>>>> uses-announcing-election-<wbr>results-171742/?utm_source=<wbr>onesigna<br>
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