<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299">Blessed Monday to all!</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr">Interesting discussion in the ISOC circles.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr">Legal usage and who defines what is correct - a unique position with a "said multistakeholder model"</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr">Is the CAPS or lower case more on Brand, identity, ownership, (de)centralisation?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr">A good point also is distinction between WWW and Internet (or internet).</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr">Be blessed.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12299" dir="ltr">Regards/Wangari</div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12297"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_11995">---<br><font style="font-weight:bold;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;" size="2" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12295"><span style="color:rgb(127, 0, 63);" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12294">Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - </span><span style="color:rgb(127, 0, 63);" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12305">"Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".</span></font><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12003"><br><br></div> <div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12066" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: garamond, "new york", times, serif;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12065"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12064"> <div dir="ltr" style="font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12292"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, 2 July 2017, 20:30, Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12063"><div id="yiv9895996481"><style>#yiv9895996481 #yiv9895996481 --
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#yiv9895996481 </style><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12062"><div class="yiv9895996481WordSection1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12061"><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Dear Ayden,</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I would recommend reading at least pages 1-3, 14, and 23-24 and of the Supreme Court judgment, which is at:</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12268"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12266"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1194_08l1.pdf">https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1194_08l1.pdf</a> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">I wonder to what extent the court’s thinking was influenced by the fact that the law they struck down did not refer to the Internet, but to the “Web”. I’m sure we all agree that there is only one World Wide Web, so the correct usage is the proper noun, Web, when referring to the WWW (as opposed to using web to refer to the generic technology, as in “a private company can operate a private web, also referred to as an intranet”).</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Be that as it may, the court referred to “the Internet” or “the internet” without defining either term. As I’ve explained elsewhere[1] there are many definitions of the term “Internet”. The one that I like best is the 1995 definition of the US Federal Networking Council[2]:</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;">“the global information system that:</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;">(i) is logically linked together by a globally unique address space based on the Internet Protocol (IP) or its subsequent extensions/follow-ons;</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">(ii) is able to support communications using the Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) suite or its subsequent extensions/follow-ons, and/or other IP-compatible protocols; and</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">(iii) provides, uses or makes accessible, either publicly or privately, high level services layered on the communications and related infrastructure described herein."</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">This definition would appear to me to apply to a particular global system, which system should be referred to by a proper noun, that is “the Internet”.</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">However, it is interesting to note that the telephone network is also a global system that is (i) logically linked together by a globally unique address space and (ii) is able to support communications using protocols. Yet nobody would think of referring to the telephone network with a proper noun, as “the Telephone Network”. Is that because the telephone network does not provide high-level services on top of its infrastructure?</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">That is, do we think of “the Internet” because of “the World Wide Web”? And, if there were no World Wide Web, would we think of “the internet” as infrastructure, which is what Justice Alito seems to do?</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Thanks again and best,</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Richard</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">[1] Richard Hill (2014), "The Internet, its governance, and the multi-Stakeholder model", <i>Info</i>, vol. 16. no. 2, March 2014</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12092" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12091">[2] See footnote xv of <i>Robert E. Kahn and Vinton G. Cerf</i><b> . “</b>What Is The Internet (And What Makes It Work)” December, 1999, available at: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.cnri.reston.va.us/what_is_internet.html" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12090">http://www.cnri.reston.va.us/what_is_internet.html</a></span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12068" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12068" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12068"><span style="font-size: 14.6667px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12116">------</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12068"><span style="font-size: 14.6667px;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12068"><span style="font-size: 14.6667px;"><br></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12208"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12209">On Sun, 2 Jul 2017, Richard Hill wrote:</span></div><div title="Show original message" role="presentation" title-off="" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12210"><span role="presentation" data-action="quoted-text" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12211"></span> <span data-action="quoted-text" tabindex="0" role="button" aria-label="Show original message" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12212">Show original message</span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12121" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12213"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12214"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12215">Also interesting: oral argument from oyez.org:</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12216"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12217"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/2016/15-1194" target="_blank" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(25, 106, 212); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12218">https://www.oyez.org/cases/2016/15-1194</a><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12219"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12220"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12221">I recommend a whole thing, one of my favourite excerpts:</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12222"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12223"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12224">-----</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12225"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12226"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12227">Elena Kagan</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12228"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12229"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12230">So -- so a -- so a person in this situation, for example, cannot go onto the President's Twitter account to find out what the President is saying today?</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12231"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12232">Robert C. Montgomery</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12233"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12234"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12235">That -- that's correct, Your Honor.</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12236"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12237"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12238">Elena Kagan</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12239"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12240"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12241">Not only the President.</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12242"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12243"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12244">I mean, we're sort of aware of it because the President now uses Twitter. </span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12245"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12246"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12247">-----</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12248"><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12249"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12250">Marcin Cieślak</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12251"><span style="font-family: "Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12252">Internet Society Poland</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12068" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12060" style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; border-top: none; border-right: none; border-bottom: none; border-image: initial; border-left: 1.5pt solid blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12258"><div class="yiv9895996481yqt6653773846" id="yiv9895996481yqt86859"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12257"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12256"><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12255"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12254"> InternetPolicy [mailto:internetpolicy-bounces@elists.isoc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ayden Férdeline<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 1, 2017 19:50<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Roland Perry<br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Internet Policy] Capital I or small i(nternet)</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I found this interesting: a majority of the US Supreme Court has capitalised the 'I' in Internet, treating it as a proper noun, in a recent decision: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pay5ek/internet-or-internet-the-supreme-court-weighs-in">https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pay5ek/internet-or-internet-the-supreme-court-weighs-in</a></div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">Best wishes,</div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">Ayden Férdeline</div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" title="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal"> </div></div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal"> </div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12508"><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">-------- Original Message --------</div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">Subject: [Internet Policy] Capital I or small i(nternet)</div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">Local Time: April 23, 2017 3:06 PM</div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">UTC Time: April 23, 2017 2:06 PM</div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roland@perry.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:roland@perry.co.uk">roland@perry.co.uk</a></div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org">internetpolicy@elists.isoc.org</a></div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">I'm old enough to regard the correct term as 'Internet' not 'internet'; </div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">for example in regular press releases, news stories etc.</div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">Does ISOC (or is that iSOC) have advice about this for the world at </div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">large?</div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">-- </div></div><div><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal">Roland Perry</div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12520"><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12519">_______________________________________________</div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12517"><div class="yiv9895996481MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1499055178473_12516"><br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>