<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Wambua,<br><br></div>We are reading that advisory that you put up in the papers...<br><br></div><u><b>Public Advisory on provision of ICT Services from licensed & compliant entities only!<br><br></b></u>Incidentally its all ICT and has *NO* telecommunications....<br><br></div>So, what's what!<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div id="m_1907098115455126424AppleMailSignature">I recommend that you guys spare a moment and read KICA. The piece of legislation, like any other, has a section on definitions. Some of these terms are clearly defined in that section for avoidance of doubt.</div>
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<div id="m_1907098115455126424AppleMailSignature">And I have no recall equating telecommunications with ICT. </div><span class="">
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On 30 May 2017, at 21:33, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
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<div>The services we are referring to here are information and communications services including telecommunications , postal/courier, broadcasting, and other wireless services that require assignment of spectrum. </div>
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<div id="m_1907098115455126424AppleMailSignature">Please can you quote the exact clause of the exact law that the CA is talking about here? </div>
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<div id="m_1907098115455126424AppleMailSignature">Are you guys talking about Telco service providers, Software Developers, Hardware Resellers etc? I'm confused. </div>
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<div id="m_1907098115455126424AppleMailSignature">And how does a license guarantee quality of service? </div>
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<div id="m_1907098115455126424AppleMailSignature">This is simply rent seeking. And will not stand. </div>
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Please educate me on this one....<br>
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When did this become the law?<br>
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We have had similar debates here when Parliament & later Min.ICT tried to push through a very similar law and to the best of my knowledge they remained as proposals / draft laws.<br>
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<div id="m_1907098115455126424m_-1437858079066369355AppleMailSignature">I did not imply in any way that this was best way to enforce contractual obligations. </div>
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The rationale for the public notice is to encourage consumers to seek ICT services only from licensed service providers. This will guarantee consumers of recourse to regulatory intervention in instances where licensees fail to meet their contract obligations.
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