<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710"><span>@Areba,</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710">Agreed with Point (a). No one should be punished for being dominant, unless they abuse the dominance.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr">Agreed with Point (b). Abuse of dominance is already defined in KICA laws and CA regulations (just google :-)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr">As for Kenya Power (& Darkness?), they are a legal distribution monopoly, though there has been attempts to change this. More like what we had during the Kenya Posts & Telcoms days.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr">I think what Ngigi and I have tried to do but failed miserably, is to try and raise the conversation above 'bashing' or 'protecting' Safcom. That really is not the point. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr">The point is that as a country we have a single-point of failure, when it comes to mobile money or internet services (yes there are options, but not effective options in terms of geographic reach & depth, as well as social scope and scale).</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr">We can chose to pray and hope that the single point of failure, never fails; or we can play the devil's advocate and think about what Kenyans will do, when and if the single point failure does fail - as it did recently.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr">It's called risk-management at a national level. It is an agenda that perhaps the National Security Council should be having. Not small timers like me, Ngigi, Ali, Areba et al :-)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr">walu.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304710" dir="ltr">nb: am not closing the debate, I am just saying lets look at it from a macro rather than a micro level.</div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304711"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304715" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304714"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304713"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304712"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304821"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_305193"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Collins Areba via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> jwalu@yahoo.com <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Collins Areba <arebacollins@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 26, 2017 1:37 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Safaricom may face sanctions over network outage<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304763"><br><div id="yiv3423768005"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304767"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304766">I think we are missing the point if we do not look at what impact this "dominant" business is all about. I would posit that: <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304769"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304823">a) There is / should be nothing wrong with being a dominant player. It is a state one can exist in by virtue of their sheer scale, and one should not be punished for being dominant. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493131566933_304825"><br clear="none"></div><div>b) The real problem here would be ABUSE of dominant position. Abuse should also be clearly defined, I believe creating an atmosphere of growth of one's competition should never be the responsibility of the dominant player. As long as they act within agreed rules of engagement. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I still need to see anchoring legislation defining and supporting market dominance, and the impact of one being declared as such. I would love to, for instance understand if KPLC, a listed company, making profit for shareholders is also listed as dominant. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv3423768005gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3423768005gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:14 AM, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv3423768005gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv3423768005yqt8425677005" id="yiv3423768005yqt27293"><div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;">@Ngigi, Well noted. </div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;">@Ali NOFBI is a good reason to invest further in Telkom Kenya.</div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://icta.go.ke/national-optic-fibre-backbone-nofbi/">http://icta.go.ke/national- optic-fibre-backbone-nofbi/</a></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text"><font face="sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;">It is a governance/political issue here, not a market issue. </div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;">Fortunately for Kenya, we have a CS who understands markets, investors and now governance. </div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;">NSE listed firms are collapsing because corruption networks prioritize dishonest gain over service delivery (which includes building up Kenyan talent/firms). </div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;">Asset recovery will occur if/when our Security & Judiciary officials resist loot offered to them. </div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text"><font face="sans-serif"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/04/25/ted-cruz-calls-14-billion-seized-el-chapo-fund-border-wall/">http://www.breitbart.com/ texas/2017/04/25/ted-cruz- calls-14-billion-seized-el- chapo-fund-border-wall/</a></font><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;">Some of these funds could be utilized to build up NOFBI (network infrastructure) and communication channels (radio, text, portals, etc) to engage citizenry in a civil (non political) manner on day to day issues such as security, extortion, careless driving, etc.</div><span class="yiv3423768005"></span><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;">On Apr 25, 2017 9:17 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> > wrote:</div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3423768005m_5905791527512070518m_-6072284226612185369elided-text" style="font-family:sans-serif;"><div>Now, the big issue is that Safaricom rans a very large part of our country's 'core' infrastructure and it would be *very irresponsible* of the regulators to sit back, looking at the scraps of 'competition' as a healthy industry and hope against hope that nothing evil would befall Safaricom.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Even Safaricom themselves have a policy of buying their core equipment from at least *TWO* separate vendors , regardless of how good a deal one vendor could give them in total. They don''t leave it to the market to decide!</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Its called *RISK MANAGEMENT*</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>So, if they can do that for their own equipment, it is only prudent that we as a country also have proper risk management in our core services. It is *NOT* a question of splitting the firm, but ensuring, by whatever means necessary, that we have at least 3 credible options.</div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"></div></div>
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