<p>Hi Kivuva,</p>
<p>I would like to know what the Afrinic Government working group has to say about this proposal. Have they endorsed it?</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 12, 2017 1:33 AM, "Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">The last part is equally important :</p>
<p dir="ltr">13.2 In the event of a government performing 3 or more such shutdowns in a period of 10 years – all resources to the aforementioned entities shall be revoked and no allocations to said entities shall occur for a period of 5 years.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 11, 2017 11:27 PM, "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Interesting. </div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">Let's pose for a minute to think this through.</div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">What does it mean to say a country like Kenya?</div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">1. No government services? </div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">2. What happens if say CA is denied such resources? Any effect on Telcom services? Or monitoring of such services?</div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">3. How about KeNIC? Will this affect KeNIC because maybe someone can argue there's ia Government stake in KeNIC? </div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">4. National Security? </div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">5. Signet? </div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">Very interesting conversation. </div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_1751058948981649001m_5704111973095329514AppleMailSignature">Thanks for sharing Kivuva.<br><br><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><a href="tel:0713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank">+254 0713 601113</a> </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.c<wbr>om/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."  ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:33 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>An interesting policy on anti-Internet shutdown which the authors</span><br><span>think is "Draconian" in nature has been floated at the AFRINIC Policy</span><br><span>Development Working Group.</span><br><span></span><br><span>The draft policy says</span><br><span></span><br><span>13.0 Internet shutdown order by governments</span><br><span></span><br><span>An internet shutdown is deemed to have occurred when it can be proved</span><br><span>that there was an attempt, failed or successful, to restrict access to</span><br><span>the internet to a segment of the population irrespective of the</span><br><span>provider or access medium that they utilize.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>13.1 In the event of an internet shutdown performed at the order of a</span><br><span>government that is either total or partial:</span><br><span></span><br><span>a) For a period of 12 months following the end of the shutdown –</span><br><span>AFRINIC will allocate no resources to the government of the</span><br><span>countryThis also applies to all government owned entities and entities</span><br><span>that have direct provable relationships with said government.</span><br><span>b) In the event of a transfer policy existing, AFRINIC shall not</span><br><span>assist or participate in any transfers to any of the entities above.</span><br><span>c) All sub-allocations of space within said country involving the</span><br><span>referred to entities shall equally cease for a period of 12 months.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Published in this link</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-01" target="_blank">https://afrinic.net/en/communi<wbr>ty/policy-development/policy-<wbr>proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-<wbr>01</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Regards</span><br><span>______________________</span><br><span>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya</span><br><span><a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m<wbr>ailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br><span>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/kictanet" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/kictanet</a></span><br><span>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/KICTA<wbr>Net/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m<wbr>ailman/options/kictanet/info%4<wbr>0alyhussein.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.</span><br><span></span><br><span>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.</span></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>
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