<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d">Barrack,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d">Am in business and I know it's the bottom line that counts at the expense of people. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d">Now we further what to fire the already strained employee replace them with a robot</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d">for a fatter bank account and cash you don't need. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d">I believe Bill Gates been the billionaire he is has realised you can have all the cash </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d">and wealth you can get but it all without meaning what really matters is the humanity.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#20124d"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Regards,<br>Job Muriuki,<br><br>Skype: heviejob<br><br><br><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Barrack Otieno <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Job,<br>
<br>
No one starts a business to pay salaries and taxes this is the kind of<br>
thinking we must reverse. You cannot punish innovativeness. I am of<br>
the opinion that there is enough work for every human being, it is<br>
just that we have become choosy and no one wants to do the dirty jobs.<br>
I still dont get the point of taxing my combine harvester which has<br>
its own maintenance cost on which i pay taxes.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On 2/28/17, Job Muriuki <<a href="mailto:muriukin@gmail.com">muriukin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Robots deny human's ( not owner) revenue and by extension, the government<br>
> loses out too and the main beneficiary is the business owner. It only makes<br>
> sense to tax the use of robots and use the cash to support the welfare of<br>
> the citizens.<br>
> What do we expect the guys who are replaced to do for a living?<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Job Muriuki,<br>
><br>
> Skype: heviejob<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Wangari,<br>
>><br>
>> When you buy a hoe you pay VAT, i guess the same applies to a Robot<br>
>> which is a piece of equipment, ROBOTS cannot pay PAYE, they don't earn<br>
>> a living<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> On 2/27/17, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Read on...<br>
>> > Robots are taking human jobs, so should they pay up for what the<br>
>> > human(s)<br>
>> > would have?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Blessed day.<br>
>> > Regards/Wangari ---<br>
>> > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are<br>
>> > Restored<br>
>> > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God<br>
>> > on<br>
>> > Earth".<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates<br>
>> ><br>
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>> > The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates<br>
>> > By Kevin J. Delaney The world's richest man is arguing for taxing and<br>
>> > slowing automation. | |<br>
>> ><br>
>> > |<br>
>> ><br>
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>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > DROID DUTIES<br>
>> > The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Why Bill Gates would tax robots<br>
>> > Quartz VideoWhy Bill Gates would tax robots0:001:40<br>
>> > Share<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Written by<br>
>> > Kevin J. Delaney<br>
>> > Obsession<br>
>> > Machines with Brains February 17, 2017 Robots are taking human<br>
>> > jobs.<br>
>> > But Bill Gates believes that governments should tax companies’ use of<br>
>> them,<br>
>> > as a way to at least temporarily slow the spread of automation and to<br>
>> fund<br>
>> > other types of employment.It’s a striking position from the world’s<br>
>> richest<br>
>> > man and a self-described techno-optimist who co-founded Microsoft, one<br>
>> > of<br>
>> > the leading players in artificial-intelligence technology.In a recent<br>
>> > interview with Quartz, Gates said that a robot tax could finance jobs<br>
>> taking<br>
>> > care of elderly people or working with kids in schools, for which needs<br>
>> are<br>
>> > unmet and to which humans are particularly well suited. He argues that<br>
>> > governments must oversee such programs rather than relying on<br>
>> businesses, in<br>
>> > order to redirect the jobs to help people with lower incomes. The idea<br>
>> > is<br>
>> > not totally theoretical: EU lawmakers considered a proposal to tax<br>
>> > robot<br>
>> > owners to pay for training for workers who lose their jobs, though on<br>
>> Feb.<br>
>> > 16 the legislators ultimately rejected it.“You ought to be willing to<br>
>> raise<br>
>> > the tax level and even slow down the speed” of automation, Gates<br>
>> > argues.<br>
>> > That’s because the technology and business cases for replacing humans<br>
>> > in<br>
>> a<br>
>> > wide range of jobs are arriving simultaneously, and it’s important to<br>
>> > be<br>
>> > able to manage that displacement. “You cross the threshold of job<br>
>> > replacement of certain activities all sort of at once,” Gates says,<br>
>> citing<br>
>> > warehouse work and driving as some of the job categories that in the<br>
>> next 20<br>
>> > years will have robots doing them.You can watch Gates’ remarks in the<br>
>> video<br>
>> > above. Below is a transcript, lightly edited for style and<br>
>> clarity.Quartz:<br>
>> > What do you think of a robot tax? This is the idea that in order to<br>
>> generate<br>
>> > funds for training of workers, in areas such as manufacturing, who are<br>
>> > displaced by automation, one concrete thing that governments could do<br>
>> > is<br>
>> tax<br>
>> > the installation of a robot in a factory, for example.Bill Gates:<br>
>> Certainly<br>
>> > there will be taxes that relate to automation. Right now, the human<br>
>> worker<br>
>> > who does, say, $50,000 worth of work in a factory, that income is taxed<br>
>> and<br>
>> > you get income tax, social security tax, all those things. If a robot<br>
>> comes<br>
>> > in to do the same thing, you’d think that we’d tax the robot at a<br>
>> > similar<br>
>> > level.And what the world wants is to take this opportunity to make all<br>
>> the<br>
>> > goods and services we have today, and free up labor, let us do a better<br>
>> job<br>
>> > of reaching out to the elderly, having smaller class sizes, helping<br>
>> > kids<br>
>> > with special needs. You know, all of those are things where human<br>
>> > empathy<br>
>> > and understanding are still very, very unique. And we still deal with<br>
>> > an<br>
>> > immense shortage of people to help out there.So if you can take the<br>
>> > labor<br>
>> > that used to do the thing automation replaces, and financially and<br>
>> > training-wise and fulfillment-wise have that person go off and do these<br>
>> > other things, then you’re net ahead. But you can’t just give up that<br>
>> income<br>
>> > tax, because that’s part of how you’ve been funding that level of human<br>
>> > workers.And so you could introduce a tax on robots…There are many ways<br>
>> > to<br>
>> > take that extra productivity and generate more taxes. Exactly how you’d<br>
>> do<br>
>> > it, measure it, you know, it’s interesting for people to start talking<br>
>> about<br>
>> > now. Some of it can come on the profits that are generated by the<br>
>> > labor-saving efficiency there. Some of it can come directly in some<br>
>> > type<br>
>> of<br>
>> > robot tax. I don’t think the robot companies are going to be outraged<br>
>> that<br>
>> > there might be a tax. It’s OK.Could you figure out a way to do it that<br>
>> > didn’t dis-incentivize innovation?Well, at a time when people are<br>
>> > saying<br>
>> > that the arrival of that robot is a net loss because of displacement,<br>
>> > you<br>
>> > ought to be willing to raise the tax level and even slow down the speed<br>
>> of<br>
>> > that adoption somewhat to figure out, “OK, what about the communities<br>
>> where<br>
>> > this has a particularly big impact? Which transition programs have<br>
>> > worked<br>
>> > and what type of funding do those require?”You cross the threshold of<br>
>> > job-replacement of certain activities all sort of at once. So, you<br>
>> > know,<br>
>> > warehouse work, driving, room cleanup, there’s quite a few things that<br>
>> are<br>
>> > meaningful job categories that, certainly in the next 20 years, being<br>
>> > thoughtful about that extra supply is a net benefit. It’s important to<br>
>> have<br>
>> > the policies to go with that.People should be figuring it out. It is<br>
>> really<br>
>> > bad if people overall have more fear about what innovation is going to<br>
>> > do<br>
>> > than they have enthusiasm. That means they won’t shape it for the<br>
>> positive<br>
>> > things it can do. And, you know, taxation is certainly a better way to<br>
>> > handle it than just banning some elements of it. But [innovation]<br>
>> appears in<br>
>> > many forms, like self-order at a restaurant—what do you call that?<br>
>> There’s a<br>
>> > Silicon Valley machine that can make hamburgers without human<br>
>> > hands—seriously! No human hands touch the thing. [Laughs]And you’re<br>
>> > more<br>
>> on<br>
>> > the side that government should play an active role rather than rely on<br>
>> > businesses to figure this out?Well, business can’t. If you want to do<br>
>> > [something about] inequity, a lot of the excess labor is going to need<br>
>> to go<br>
>> > help the people who have lower incomes. And so it means that you can<br>
>> > amp<br>
>> up<br>
>> > social services for old people and handicapped people and you can take<br>
>> the<br>
>> > education sector and put more labor in there. Yes, some of it will go<br>
>> > to,<br>
>> > “Hey, we’ll be richer and people will buy more things.” But the<br>
>> > inequity-solving part, absolutely government’s got a big role to play<br>
>> there.<br>
>> > The nice thing about taxation though, is that it really separates the<br>
>> issue:<br>
>> > “OK, so that gives you the resources, now how do you want to deploy<br>
>> > it?”<br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
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>> --<br>
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