<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Security-Policy" content="script-src 'self'; img-src * cid: data:;"></head><body style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-image: initial; line-height: initial;"><div id="response_container_BBPPID" style="outline:none;font-size:initial;font-family:"Calibri","Slate Pro",sans-serif,"sans-serif"" dir="auto" contenteditable="false"> <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> Good morning, </div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">This is not the cold war era. Populations have grown and privacy infringement laws have come a long way in KE and world over.</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">To tap into 60% of close to 40 million people seems a bit far fetched from an infrastructural point of view and a capacity one too. It's impossible to have a listener on each and every phone. Should it even be a machine learning device with every phone as a node, the amount of data would be too much and irrelevant to store on a daily basis. Key words would have to be chosen were it for example used to collect hate speech. With all the words available in our vocabulary, not forgetting our local languages, the system would take years to understand KE context.</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Media houses are sensationalist, and rightly so, they have to make money. The industry does have a tendency of providing half truths to sustain the story over a period of time. If all info was given @ once, what would be the story for the next day?</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I implore members to begin following official handles of Govt entities. Compare their position on the matter with what media has. Both are providing their points of view and should form basis of conclusions made.</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Regards,</div><div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Eshuchi Richard </div> <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="width: 100%; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br style="display:initial"></div> <div id="blackberry_signature_BBPPID" name="BB10" dir="auto"> <div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Sent from my BlackBerry Android — the most secure mobile device</div> </div></div><div id="_original_msg_header_BBPPID" dir="auto"> <table width="100%" style="background-color: white; border-spacing: 0px; display: table; outline: none;" contenteditable="false"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div style="border-right: none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-image: initial; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, "BB Alpha Sans", "Slate Pro"; font-size: 10pt;"> <div id="from"><b>From:</b> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</div><div id="sent"><b>Sent:</b> 17 February 2017 10:11 a.m.</div><div id="to"><b>To:</b> eshuchi.richard@gmail.com</div><div id="reply_to"><b>Reply to:</b> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</div><div id="cc"><b>Cc:</b> Alwala@ca.go.ke; CPA@ca.go.ke</div><div id="subject"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-right: none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-image: initial; border-top: 1pt solid rgb(186, 188, 209); display: block; padding: initial; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div> <br> </div><!--start of _originalContent --><div name="BB10" dir="auto" style="background-image: initial; line-height: initial; outline: none;" contenteditable="false">
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<div>We are aware about the misleading reports in the media. The Authority will address the media shortly to clarify and explain how the system works. There is no infringement of privacy. As a matter of fact, no information leaves the MNOs. Instead the system
queries the databases (whitelist, type approved devices etc) to determine the genuineness of a device before service is given. What part of that is infringement of privacy?</div>
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<div>We will share the statement with you to help all of you understand. No one needs to be instilled with fear that is generated by parties with vested interests. we want to eliminate illegal telecoms traffic through SIM boxing, counterfeit devices, substandard
devices etc, for your good as the public. Not the other way as portrayed in the media. </div>
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On Feb 17, 2017, at 09:43, Grace B via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? <br>
The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010.<br>
If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy?
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Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <<a href="mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke">isoc@lists.my.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 15.600000000000001px;line-height:25px"><span style="background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 15.600000000000001px;line-height:25px"><span style="background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 15.600000000000001px;line-height:25px"><span style="background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">Read on:-</span></p>
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<a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phone-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html">http://www.nation.co.ke/news/<wbr>Government-likely-to-start-<wbr>phone-tapping/1056-3816372-<wbr>m5vnfx/index.html</a></div>
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