We do have .EU and .ASIA running for sometime now beside ccTLDs in their geographic regions!<br><br>Pierre <br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:24 waudo siganga via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:medium" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Hi Kivuva - it's all speculation but in the coming future I see (using your examples) more of Nakumatt.<strong class="gmail_msg">store</strong> or Nakumatt.<strong class="gmail_msg">shop</strong>, Equity<strong class="gmail_msg">.bank</strong>, AGOA<strong class="gmail_msg">.trade</strong>, Dangote.cement etc. If geographic identity would be so crucial then I would rather expect more granulation rather than aggregation to indicate a registrant's location: Nakumatt.tz, Nakumatt.ug, Nakumatt.ng, Nakumatt.nairobi, Nakumatt.eldoret, Nakumatt.kawangware etc.</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">.Africa to me is an overrated expectation; once in a while in the IT world we get this kind of thing that is pushed with excitement as a game-changer or big bang but eventually turns out to be much ado about nothing as well as having no demonstrable benefit to the common man walking on the street.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:medium" dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">
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<div class="gmail_msg">On Sat, Feb 11, 2017, at 05:27 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote:</div>
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<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">There is an obvious worry by ccTLDs that this new string will steal business from them. But that view is unfounded.</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">.Africa will attract brands that perceive themselves as African centric... For example East African Community will not need to use .int domain. Some other brands are East Africa IGF, Africa IGF, NEPAD, AGOA, Dangote, Nakumatt, Equity bank, (insert here any regional or Global brand). This space is not controlled by ccTLDs, but by gTLDs like .com .net .org and .biz</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">There will also be domainers who will run after dictionary names, and African names which are adword friendly, and which are easy to squat on. This will be good for the administrators of .AFRICA because they will get the much needed revenue to cover their costs, especially now that the legal battle may have taken them on a financial marathon. I cannot even imagine the value of Safari.africa, but I'm damn sure the ZACRA guys have already put that domain on premium sunrise application. There is no cause for worry because the .africa string went through the Trade Mark Protection period some years back. I remember Alice Munyua leading this process on this platform for protecting Kenyan based trademarks and heritage.</p>
<p dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">I've been in the DNS industry for more than a decade, and I know what I'm saying. And I say :-)</p>
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<div class="m_47314507249667999me31408gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Feb 11, 2017 4:08 PM, "Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:
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<div class="m_47314507249667999me31408gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Feb 11, 2017 12:18, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:
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<div id="m_47314507249667999me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">My take is this:-</div>
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<div id="m_47314507249667999me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">1. From a corporate perspective the idea is not to necessarily make money but for defensive registration to protect the brand. Like .google or .coke etc.</div>
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<div id="m_47314507249667999me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">2. For Geo Domains the attraction is obvious. Whether they will make money or not is up in the air and depends on Positioning. Something that the DNS Community needs to learn.<br class="gmail_msg">
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<div id="m_47314507249667999me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">a) The space is virgin territory in terms of being exploited </div>
<div id="m_47314507249667999me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">b) Marketing and online fulfillment is an area that requires great attention</div>
<div id="m_47314507249667999me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">c) That ICANN is committed to helping the sector grow and realize its potential</div>
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<div id="m_47314507249667999me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">We in the sector need to do our part and sensitize all players to come to the table.</div>
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<div id="m_47314507249667999me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature" class="gmail_msg">There's more to real estate than a plot in Kitengela. There are prime positions to be had online.. :-). </div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">someone needs to take me on a 101 course why there is so much rumpus about these new gTLDs, especially the geos. Will they break even/make money? Already ZACR has 3 other geo nTLDs in South Africa but the registrations as shown at <a href="http://ntldstats.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ntldstats.com</a> seem pretty modest. Multichoice had registered around 6 dotbrands with fancy names like .supersport and .africamagic all at $185,000 each but appears to have come to a brick wall and bolted to cut the losses. Maybe I'm missing something. If so please bring me up to date.</div>
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