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<div>.Africa to me is an overrated expectation; once in a while in the IT world we get this kind of thing that is pushed with excitement as a game-changer or big bang but eventually turns out to be much ado about nothing as well as having no demonstrable benefit to the common man walking on the street.</div>
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<div>On Sat, Feb 11, 2017, at 05:27 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote:</div>
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<p dir="ltr">There is an obvious worry by ccTLDs that this new string will steal business from them. But that view is unfounded.</p>
<p dir="ltr">.Africa will attract brands that perceive themselves as African centric... For example East African Community will not need to use .int domain. Some other brands are East Africa IGF, Africa IGF, NEPAD, AGOA, Dangote, Nakumatt, Equity bank, (insert here any regional or Global brand). This space is not controlled by ccTLDs, but by gTLDs like .com .net .org and .biz</p>
<p dir="ltr">There will also be domainers who will run after dictionary names, and African names which are adword friendly, and which are easy to squat on. This will be good for the administrators of .AFRICA because they will get the much needed revenue to cover their costs, especially now that the legal battle may have taken them on a financial marathon. I cannot even imagine the value of Safari.africa, but I'm damn sure the ZACRA guys have already put that domain on premium sunrise application. There is no cause for worry because the .africa string went through the Trade Mark Protection period some years back. I remember Alice Munyua leading this process on this platform for protecting Kenyan based trademarks and heritage.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I've been in the DNS industry for more than a decade, and I know what I'm saying. And I say :-)</p>
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<div>When are we likely to be able to use. africa, I am definitely interested in this. </div>
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<div class="me31408gmail_quote">On Feb 11, 2017 12:18, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr />> wrote:
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<div id="me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature">My take is this:-</div>
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<div id="me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature">1. From a corporate perspective the idea is not to necessarily make money but for defensive registration to protect the brand. Like .google or .coke etc.</div>
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<div id="me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature">2. For Geo Domains the attraction is obvious. Whether they will make money or not is up in the air and depends on Positioning. Something that the DNS Community needs to learn.<br />
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My business sense though tells me that this space hasn't even been scratched yet. In a series of Capacity Building Seminars that ICANN held in 2015 through 2016 for the DNS Sector in Africa it became obvious that:-</div>
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<div id="me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature">a) The space is virgin territory in terms of being exploited </div>
<div id="me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature">b) Marketing and online fulfillment is an area that requires great attention</div>
<div id="me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature">c) That ICANN is committed to helping the sector grow and realize its potential</div>
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<div id="me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature">We in the sector need to do our part and sensitize all players to come to the table.</div>
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<div id="me31408m_-1984941584896265887m_-5139148162005480201AppleMailSignature">There's more to real estate than a plot in Kitengela. There are prime positions to be had online.. :-). </div>
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On 11 Feb 2017, at 9:37 AM, waudo siganga via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr />> wrote:<br />
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<div>someone needs to take me on a 101 course why there is so much rumpus about these new gTLDs, especially the geos. Will they break even/make money? Already ZACR has 3 other geo nTLDs in South Africa but the registrations as shown at <a href="http://ntldstats.com" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ntldstats.com</a> seem pretty modest. Multichoice had registered around 6 dotbrands with fancy names like .supersport and .africamagic all at $185,000 each but appears to have come to a brick wall and bolted to cut the losses. Maybe I'm missing something. If so please bring me up to date.</div>
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<div>On Sat, Feb 11, 2017, at 12:27 AM, Grace B via kictanet wrote:</div>
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