<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Over to GG...<br><br><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0713 601113 </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 19 Jan 2017, at 3:17 PM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8">Sounds like a solid plan. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Will KICTANet officials lead in drafting this? We can then undersign accordingly… <br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 18, 2017, at 2:22 PM, <a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Send kictanet mailing list submissions to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..."<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. Re: Feedback on the 2016 ICT POLICY - REMINDER No. 7<br class=""> (Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 14:19:30 +0300<br class="">From: Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu <<a href="mailto:chemukoechk@gmail.com">chemukoechk@gmail.com</a>><br class="">To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [kictanet] Feedback on the 2016 ICT POLICY - REMINDER No.<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>7<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><<a href="mailto:CAApgMtw9RsTu02YehMqRorszwa9=Nh0eTgzdC4kSY_ohkr8Z2w@mail.gmail.com">CAApgMtw9RsTu02YehMqRorszwa9=Nh0eTgzdC4kSY_ohkr8Z2w@mail.gmail.com</a>><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Dear Ali,<br class=""><br class="">Thank you for not giving up.<br class=""><br class="">To answer your question to Esther I suggest a three step course of action:-<br class=""><br class="">1. We formally write to the ministry requesting feedback on the query and<br class="">demand feedback in a specific time say 14 days because they have had<br class="">adequate time to digest the issue.<br class=""><br class="">2. If we get no feedback we will write to the Commission on Administrative<br class="">Justice under the Commission of Administrative Justice Act no 23 of 2011<br class="">where we will report that the said ministry has failed or is completely<br class="">unwilling to engage us in the policy formulation as we are not been made<br class="">aware of what the final document is and exactly what the impact of our<br class="">input was....this in itself is an injustice to the ICT fraternity<br class="">perpetuated by relevant ministry officials.<br class=""><br class="">3. If any policy document is passed before we have been engaged further, we<br class="">will file a constitutional petition seeking to render the said document<br class="">unconstitutional by virtue of the lack of public participation. In the said<br class="">petition we will be seeking an interpretation on the requirement of public<br class="">participation and what effect this should have when public bodies engage<br class="">the public. Is it just a box to be ticked in the meeting of requirements or<br class="">what procedure should be utilised when adopting or discarding public<br class="">opinion in the creation of policy? This is so that public participation<br class="">does not become an action in futility which I must say it is increasingly<br class="">the sad state of affairs. I'm sure the section was not placed in the<br class="">constitution to have a decorative effect.<br class=""><br class="">My two cents.<br class=""><br class="">Kind regards,<br class=""><br class="">Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu.<br class="">Advocate- FinTech and ICT Policy.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 18 Jan 2017 07:34, "Grace B via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br class="">wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Thank you Ali for keeping the issue alive over all these months.<br class="">In addition to the policy, there have been several reports in the news<br class="">about a cyber crime Bill that is being developed to be in place before<br class="">elections. <a href="http://www.ict.go.ke/government-to-curb-cyber-crimes/">http://www.ict.go.ke/government-to-curb-cyber-crimes/</a> and<br class=""><a href="http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/08/24/cyber-crime-">http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/08/24/cyber-crime-</a><br class="">law-to-be-enforced-before-polls-to-curb-incitement-cs_c1408304<br class=""><br class="">Is the (draft) Bill emanating from the policy framework we participated<br class="">in? How can we as a community be able to give input to that Bill as early<br class="">as possible in order to avoid the latent expedition of law making processes<br class="">that is likely to manifest when Parliament convenes for its last session<br class="">before elections?<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">2017-01-18 5:56 GMT+03:00 Ali Hussein via kictanet <<br class=""><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Esther<br class=""><br class="">In the event that this request continues to be ignored what recourse do<br class="">we have to enforce such said request?<br class=""><br class="">*Ali Hussein*<br class="">*Principal*<br class="">*Hussein & Associates*<br class="">+254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113><br class=""><br class="">Twitter: @AliHKassim<br class=""><br class="">Skype: abu-jomo<br class=""><br class="">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br class=""><br class="">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a<br class="">habit." ~ Aristotle<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPad<br class=""><br class="">On 17 Jan 2017, at 11:41 PM, esther kamande via kictanet <<br class=""><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Thank you Ali for the 7th Reminder, I am equally concerned as no feedback<br class="">on the same has been forthcoming for almost 6 months since July 2016.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Article 35 of the constitution introduced a number of reforms emphasizing<br class="">on open-decision making process, citizen participation and the role of<br class="">transparency in building up an informed citizenry towards a democratic<br class="">nation. In practice, open decision-making is to a large extent realized<br class="">through the right of the general public to access documents and Access<br class="">to Information Act No. 31 of 2016, breathes life into this.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">All documents held by the state with the exceptions as provided for in<br class="">section 6 of the Access to information Act. 31 of 2016 are public therefore<br class="">the amended Draft ICT Policy document must be provided to the public for<br class="">further scrutiny after the comments have been taken into<br class="">account. Furthermore, section 4 (3) is very clear on information held by a<br class="">public entity or a private body to be provided *expeditiously* at a<br class="">reasonable cost. This means that information should be provided with *?speed<br class="">and efficiency?* otherwise it undermines this right as well as democracy.<br class="">It has been 6 months and counting therefore this right is being undermined.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">In this regard I add my voice to request for the amended Draft ICT Policy<br class="">to be provided *expeditiously* as provided by the law for further<br class="">scrutiny.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Esther Kamande<br class=""><br class="">Advocate | Policy Analyst<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Twitter: @enkamande<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <<br class=""><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Bwana PS Kyalo<br class=""><br class="">The above refers.<br class=""><br class="">Could you kindly update us on the way forward regarding the 2016 ICT<br class="">Policy?<br class=""><br class="">We would like to know how the community can help further and when the<br class="">Policy will be become a 'live' document so we can be able to delve into it<br class="">and extract the gems that lie therein.<br class=""><br class="">We would also like to know how the multi-stakeholder engagement<br class="">benefited the development of the Policy, what was added, removed and the<br class="">criteria used to do so. Of course we are also keen to see the final<br class="">document.<br class=""><br class="">Thank you and looking forward to your response.<br class=""><br class="">Regards<br class=""><br class="">*Ali Hussein*<br class="">*Principal*<br class="">*Hussein & Associates*<br class="">+254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113><br class=""><br class="">Twitter: @AliHKassim<br class=""><br class="">Skype: abu-jomo<br class=""><br class="">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking<br class="">what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPad<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">kictanet mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br class="">Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/kictanet">http://twitter.com/kictanet</a><br class="">Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/">https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/</a><br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/m</a><br class="">ailman/options/kictanet/enkamande%<a href="http://40gmail.com">40gmail.com</a><br class=""><br class="">The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform<br class="">for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br class="">regulation. 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