<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Sidney/Moses</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thanks for bringing us back to this very critical discussions.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I want to make an observation(s):-</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">1. There is a tendency creeping in this country for government officials to ignore uncomfortable conversations and topics. I would like to humbly remind them that they have a duty and a responsibility to respond to our queries. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">2. Governments Agencies beating doors down to seem to respond and support to the powers that be on issues yet when we citizens ask questions there is loud silences. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I know you all are reading these posts. Engagement with the citizenry is a must. 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Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 14 Jan 2017, at 3:17 PM, Mose Karanja via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8">Sidney, your observations are spot on. <div class=""><br class=""><div class="">There are legal and oversight issues here regarding the CA briefing. </div><div class="">There is also the issue of civil society PLEADING with the government ‘will you shutdown the Internet during the elections? please do not shutdown the Internet?’ Total confusion. If they want to shutdown communications channels, they should do it knowing they will be legally responsible for violations of a host of laws in Kenya and definitely the Constitution. There is no legal justification whatsoever for a total Internet shutdown. That amounts to collective punishment, unless may be they institute a State of Emergency as Ethiopia did last year. If there are no active shutdowns then we will start to celebrate yet that is what a normal election should be. We are subtly normalizing Internet shutdowns - or better still, information controls online including censorship. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As a citizen of this republic and as a believer in the separation of powers, I hope the judiciary can offer sufficient oversight on this matter regarding court orders. If this fails, a constitutional interpretation on this can be instituted. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I also haven’t hear anything from Internet service providers or the business community on this matter. Hopefully we will know who got our back in due course. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">@Sidney, the thread on WhatsApp is a different conversation that happened to be on this one. Apologies for the mixup. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">M</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 14 Jan 2017, at 14:52, Sidney Ochieng <<a href="mailto:sidney.ochieng@gmail.com" class="">sidney.ochieng@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hey all,<div class="">This discussion I feel has gone off topic slightly; this focus on what technology we use and how well encrypted it is is besides the point. If you checked out Nanjira's tweets the second one is a photo form the Standard about the CA sending 2b to monitor communication(Sh1.1 billion on a spectrum monitoring system to monitor unauthorised broadcasts, Sh600 million on a social media monitoring system and Sh400 million on a device management system to closely monitor mobile phones and the activities around them), The article seems to have been taken offline for some reason but the google cached version can be found <a href="https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:T9Z2xi4rXBIJ:https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000229727/communications-authority-to-monitor-private-talk-and-texts-during-poll+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk" class="">here</a>. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Under which law does the CA have the authority to monitor mobile phones without a court order? If it is by court order, can we have a copy of that order? The data that is collected by these systems, who is its custodian, how long will it be held for? What about my constitutionally right to privacy?(particularly part d of section 31: <b class=""><i class="">the right not to have the privacy of my communications infringed</i></b>)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When was the tendering process for these systems and who is supplying them?(I've built social media monitoring tools -for research purposes- would have been nice to get 600m😅)<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">These systems have been acquired with the stated purpose of <i class=""><u class="">preventing a repeat of the 2007/2008 post-election violence.</u></i> At iHub Research, a team of researchers that Nanjira and I were a part of a team that spent 5 years looking for a link between<a href="http://ihub.co.ke/research/projects/23" class=""> hate speech online and violence offline</a> and never found one, not even a cursory one. So the question becomes where did the CA get the notion that this was necessary? Would they care to share their research?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Finally on internet shutdowns? By which law? Or court order? The article says<span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:raleway,sans-serif;font-size:15px" class=""> </span><b style="font-style:italic" class="">measures like an internet shut-down will only be deployed in a "worst-case scenario" </b>What the hell is a "worst case scenario"? I would like to know in very specific terms what that means and what conditions have to be met for it to be considered a worst-case scenario. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Last question, what happens to these systems after the election?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If someone from the CA could answer these questions I'd be most appreciative</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 January 2017 at 13:28, Moses Karanja via kictanet <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""><p class="">Ali, as you noted, The Guardian decided to go with the
catchphrase. Asking the right questions would have been boring but
who has time for boring studies when you can attack
Facebook/WhatsApp and get the spotlight? :)<br class="">
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Security is hard and no one person/organization can get it 100%.
It is more practical to live with systems that can fail well by
being transparent on vulnerabilities and being proactive with
patching them. <br class="">
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</p><p class="">M<br class="">
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<div class="m_4311786534723401435moz-cite-prefix">On 14/01/2017 13:21, Ali Hussein wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">Moses</div>
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<div class="">Thanks for sharing. I personally considered the Guardian
story and then read the Open Whispers System blog and came to
the conclusion that it just may be possible that the Guardian
Newspaper in this case was really dabbling in sensationalism.</div>
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<div class="">I'm keen to hear comments from listers who have a deeper
understanding of <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">cryptography. </span></div>
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<div class="">Meanwhile in all things tech and social the best defense
against snooping and hacking is simply this:-</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Exercise caution. Don't write or post anything that may
embarrass you if someone hacked into any of your devices. </div>
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<div class="">This may be an opportunity for those who have gotten into the
habit of engaging in an online relationship to actually go out
and meet..You know...like we used to do in the 1980s and
before..</div>
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<div class="">You may just find it super fulfilling...in more ways than
one.. :-) <br class="">
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On 14 Jan 2017, at 8:24 AM, Moses Karanja via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr class="">>
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<div class=""><p class="">Open Whispers response to The Guardian article, maintaining
it is not a backdoor:</p>
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The only question it might be reasonable to ask is whether
these safety number change notifications should be
"blocking" or "non-blocking." In other words, when a
contact's key changes, should WhatsApp require the user to
manually verify the new key before continuing, or should
WhatsApp display an advisory notification and continue
without blocking the user.</p>
</blockquote><p class=""><a class="m_4311786534723401435moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://whispersystems.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoor/" target="_blank">https://whispersystems.org/<wbr class="">blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-<wbr class="">backdoor/</a>
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</p><p class="">Moses<br class="">
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