<div dir="ltr">Dear all, <div><br></div><div>As part of the civil society practicum participants in the Afrisig 2016, our first statement called for a complete denunciation of the internet shutdowns. But as we progressed on the final statement, we realized that hardline positions taken by every multi-stakeholder groups only meant that discussions couldn't proceed further. Concessions had to be made to make this joint statement a reality and this is the situation in actual 'real life' situations and negotiations that involve multi-stakeholder groups, be it in IG, climate change talks and even international trade negotiations. </div><div><br></div><div>Please see attached the civil society 'hardline' statement before concessions were made. </div><div><br></div><div>warm regards, </div><div><br></div><img width="0" height="0" class="mailtrack-img" src="https://mailtrack.io/trace/mail/6b270fff8cac1657835400e95df4ff287348f36f.png?u=521787"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><p><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px"><b>---</b></span></font></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Joash Ntenga Moitui</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>Research Fellow<br>Centre for Human Rights and Policy Studies<br>Daphton<span> </span>Court, A2<br>Riverside Drive<br>P O Box 23748 00100<br>Nairobi<br>Office: +254.20.5270577</span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial">
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Ali,<div><br></div><div>Easy :-).</div><div><br></div><div>It was a consensus document by students learning Internet Governance. And the consensus was reached because participants were made to stay up until 1am (It happens in real life anyway). So some gave up so that they can catch up with their sleep. Just that you know, those who played the role of government and put that clause allowing "some shutdowns" were actually civil society practitioners in real life :)</div><div><br></div><div>Have you ever noticed how people change when they get into government? They literally wear a different cap. Like the reminders being sent on the list requesting some information from government. It's like asking for blood donation from a housefly.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br><a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br><br><br></div></div>
<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 December 2016 at 05:44, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Mwendwa </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing this. I'm of the hardline stance. No Internet Shutdowns. Period. Let me share some excerpts:-</div><div><br></div><div> <ol start="13" style="margin:0px 0px 1.714285714rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;list-style-position:outside;line-height:1.714285714"><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.571428571rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">We also recognize that there are cases when Internet shutdowns are a means to ensuring the wellbeing of citizens, such as during cyber attacks from outside the country, military attacks and terrorist activity. </span></li></ol><div><ol start="16" style="margin:0px 0px 1.714285714rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;list-style-position:outside;line-height:1.714285714"><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.571428571rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">We recommend that the independent national multistakeholder commissions on Internet Shutdowns be guided by the following:</span></li></ol><ul style="margin:0px 0px 1.714285714rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;list-style-position:outside;line-height:1.714285714"><li class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566first-child" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.571428571rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">National security and public order</span></li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.571428571rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Transparency & accountability</span></li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.571428571rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Freedom of Expression and Access to Information</span></li><li class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566last-child" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.571428571rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Necessity & proportionality</span></li></ul><div><br></div></div><div>We are just opening the door to a slippery slop of legitimizing such actions. Can you imagine a Government in Africa calling 'Mulit-Stakeholders' together to determine a shutdown? You will just have a bunch of rubber stumpers trooping to 'Government House' to lend their hand. </div><div><br></div><div>We stand a snowball's chance in hell before that happens. Having said that I do appreciate the efforts that have gone into this and commend all the players who were involved in drafting this. If nothing else it will continue to highlight the risks we continue to face.</div><br><div><span><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div></span><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><a href="tel:+254%20713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank">+254 0713 601113</a> </div><span><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.c<wbr>om/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span><br></span></div></span><span><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</span></div></div><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533h5"><div><br>On 4 Dec 2016, at 10:00 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Speaking of declarations Grace Mutung'u,<div><br></div><div>The African School on Internet Governance (AFRISIG) class of 2016, in their practicum came up with a statement on Internet shutdown. All stakeholder groups, including Government, Civil Society, Academia, Business, and Technical community agreed that the statement was balanced <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/statement-on-an-intentional-internet-shutdown/" target="_blank">http://afrisig.org/af<wbr>risig-2016/statement-on-an-int<wbr>entional-internet-shutdown/</a></div><div><br></div><div>It took 4 days to produce the statement through wider consultations and consensus building. Probably this is a statement that can be expounded upon.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br><a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br><br><br></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 December 2016 at 21:39, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Poncelet, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thank you for sharing. I cannot imagine the effect of a 52 hour complete and deliberate shutdown. We are glad to have you back online. Welcome back! </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I agree with you that we must continue to promote the African Declaration, now more than ever. Incidentally, I have not come across any pronouncements by the African Union on this matter of Internet shutdowns. Have you? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Regards, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">PS: The African Declaration is here: <a href="http://africaninternetrights.org/" target="_blank">http://africaninternetrights.o<wbr>rg/</a></font><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022h5">2016-12-03 17:24 GMT+03:00 Ali Hussein via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Poncelet</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Congratulations to all in The Gambia. And to the incumbent for accepting the defeat even with the shut down he initiated. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">One other thing..We can actually calculate the cost of Internet Shutdowns. Last year countries lost $2.4 billion. See link:-</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><a href="https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/intenet-shutdowns-v-3.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.brookings.edu/wp-c<wbr>ontent/uploads/2016/10/intenet<wbr>-shutdowns-v-3.pdf</a></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></div><img src="http://t.sidekickopen16.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4LNdFMd_KMKRbM7xW4Wzv6P2zlZNzW26tGP91k1H6H0?si=6190904865718272&pi=8c4ecc81-6070-4dfb-e072-31ea0569ea32" style="display:none!important" height="1" width="1"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022m_6018323421667002000m_1673511197538503276gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022m_6018323421667002000h5">On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Poncelet Ileleji via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022m_6018323421667002000h5"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Grace,<br><br></div>It was 52 Hours complete shutdown starting 8"08pm on election eve on the 30th of Nov and it was officially announced on TV that it was going to be down no secret about it,International Lines cut off too later local SMS weas also cut off, we came back online 12:30pm yesterday coincidentally after the incumbent had conceded defeat to the Coalition flag bearer ending 22 years of his rule.<br><br></div>We need to promote more and more the African Declaration of Internet rights so our leaders know it matters in the true sense of the word the economic loss alone, we cant quantify, the joy here in the Gambia its basically the digital natives those born after the outgoing leader came to power 1994 that basically voted him out, <br><br></div>Well enjoy the weekend, have loads to say, but will talk later on this.<br><br></div>Kind Regards<br><br></div>Poncelet<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022m_6018323421667002000m_1673511197538503276gmail-h5">On 2 December 2016 at 01:06, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022m_6018323421667002000m_1673511197538503276gmail-h5"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Listers, </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Internet shutdowns are almost becoming a part of African elections and reports indicate that Gambia has taken this step ahead of elections tomorrow. With an added twist- calls also seem to be blocked. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A few months ago we discussed the Ugandan shutdown where we went at length into the techniques employed, including electricity blackouts. With our own elections round the corner, a few questions: </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Is anyone concerned that Kenya may also have a shutdown come elections? </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In the (hopefully hypothetical) case that we had a shutdown, who would effect it? ISPs? MNOs? Kenya Power? </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">And who would give the orders? The Government? The Regulator? </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hoping that these are just hypothetical musings. </div><span class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022m_6018323421667002000m_1673511197538503276gmail-m_-7954148094663655876HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Grace</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_7073738252679744533m_-442254984677611566m_-6501661378469042022m_6018323421667002000m_1673511197538503276gmail-m_-7954148094663655876m_4907535861258341760gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Grace L.N. Mutung'u <br>Nairobi Kenya<br>Skype: gracebomu<br>Twitter: @Bomu<br><br><<a href="http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu" target="_blank">http://www.diplointernetgover<wbr>nance.org/profile/GraceMutungu</a><wbr>></div><div><br></div><div>PGP ID : 0x33A3450F<br><br></div></div></div>
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