<p dir="ltr">Unfortunately, judging from my experience, both in public and private sector, HR and top IT management do indeed either get it wrong, lack ability or sometimes objectivity while onboarding vendors or staff.</p>
<p dir="ltr">In which case, industry professionals can help in defining a criteria for all. This of course should also be shared with tertiary institutions and universities. </p>
<p dir="ltr">As we know, new professions are being defined daily. Some core fundamentals remain the same. </p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Francis Nderitu via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">In my own view this kind of vetting they are asking for should be institutional but not individual - which is already happening naturally. Does Company A have the capacity to offer service XYZ? That kind of approach could be helpful, just like in the construction industry, diffrent companies have diffrent clearance level.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>@James, <br>
</p>
<p>I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is
okay to be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications,
just have passion and be good at what you do. <br>
</p>
<p>Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few
regulations, few standards and no regularity body until we
realized that our lives depends on these people and their mistakes
can be catastrophic. <br>
</p>
<p>The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors
are starting to cause some serious damages and the society is
right when it demands some yardstick to know who is who. <br>
</p>
<p>Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ?</p>
<p>Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and
committed doctor but no certificate ?<br>
</p>
<p>Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank,
hospital, airport and even national security.<br>
</p>
<p>Cheers <br>
</p>
<p>Nelson <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934moz-cite-prefix">On 02/12/2016 10:42 WD, James Muendo
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Nelson, </div>
<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">"we
can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in
the name of innovation and disruption."</span><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I
think what you have quoted there is what drives the
profession and the industry at large. What you are
suggesting is we curb creativity of people who seek to curb
a niche out of the huge industry. As Ahmed said, this is not
like professions, like, being a doctor or a lawyer that have
a pre-set set of standards. If anything, the industry
thrives on its dynamic nature, which leads to disruption and
innovation. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">On
that I beg to disagree with you. Also, in terms of
standards, if we look outside .KE, what other country/town
has ICT standards? </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Am
with Ngigi in this one, we need to separate business from
profession. The tricky bit, would be, what criteria will you
use to do so. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Regards, </span></div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 December 2016 at 10:28, Nelson J
kwaje via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>Let us face it, the ICT Industry has a problem with
standards, ambiguity rules the ICT Industry in Kenya.
the words below can have as many meanings as the are ICT
professionals <br>
</p>
<ul>
<li>Cloud Solution <br>
</li>
<li>Software Architect</li>
<li>Software Developer <br>
</li>
<li>IoT <br>
</li>
<li>Web APP <br>
</li>
<li>and many other <br>
</li>
</ul>
<p>we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets
diluted in the name of innovation and disruption. <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514moz-cite-prefix">On
02/12/2016 10:12 WD, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p dir="ltr">My point is, chaos are eminent in the
industry. Is it what we want.. NO.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Then, let's agree on the criteria. ICT
Authority is part of the KICTANET community, let's
engage them, instead of shooting in your defense.
Let's get a constructive multi-stakeholder engagement.
</p>
<p dir="ltr">I am afraid that having a few highly
opinionated people rule mailing lists stalls
multi-stakeholder participation. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I hope that the ICT Authority is listening
somewhere. <br>
</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 2, 2016 10:00 AM,
"Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>
<div>Its not really about why people feel
insecure. Its about what policy is meant
to do. Why? Technologists are not doctors
or lawyers.<br>
<br>
</div>
With all due respect. What does the
education system offer as a yardstick for
competence? Most of us got jobs before we
even graduated school. And we went on to
work for projects and institutions that went
on to win Awards in the international arena.
<br>
<br>
You see, IT is not about being a Doctor or
being a Lawyer (where theory is a factor).
IT is an operational field. IT, more than
any other field - is based on Talent. Not
much on Knowledge. This is why we have so
many people out of Uni looking for
Internships that they can not find. In a
market where the dynamics are governed by
people who did not even do that degree - to
drive technical jobs.<br>
<br>
And yes, we have several CEOs in several
companies who (and some of them entrepreneur
their own way through) did not even do a
BCom at the least. Some of them did not even
see an higher learning institution.<br>
<br>
</div>
We need to understand that the market dynamics
are shifting. Schools in developing are
evolving. Why? <b>Because Technology has
changed the education field. The education
field is not changing technology.</b>
Apologies if we believe so.<br>
<br>
</div>
Just my two cents.<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2, 2016
at 9:39 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">@Dorcas.
<div>Before we even get to answering why
many people are insecure about the
discussion, I would point to the more
obvious question. What are the
protagonists trying to do? what are
they trying to solve? Unfortunately
thus far, It is not clear. What is in
need of regulation? and why does it
need to be regulated? is this
regulation for regulation's sake? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I did mention yesterday that from
my point of view, Regulation makes
sense only where there is a limited
resource, shared by many, which left
without regulation would result in
disorder and "law of the jungle".
Which ICT component is this that needs
to be streamlined to prevent it from
spiralling out of control? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>From where I sit, It feels like a
bunch of individuals feel shortchanged
about the time, effort and money they
spent in learning "the science" only
to come out here and find the arena
flattened by the same technology. It
feels like "the bill" which seeks to
assign non existent value to those
that feel some level of entitlement to
that "ict professional" title purely
on the basis of having done ICT
formally. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I stand corrected.</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2,
2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via
kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Why are so many people
insecure about this topic. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Can a bank CEO act as
the principal legal officer of a
bank? Why not? </p>
<p dir="ltr">Which Innovators are
these people are referring to? As
far as I know, most of the
referenced global innovators
dropped out of some computer
science programs and employ
thousands of highly qualified CS
and engineering graduates.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I don't think starting
a box-pushing or software license
reselling entity coupled with
hiring a few technicians can turn
anyone into a domain
professional. Let's get this
straight and boldly address the
true issues at hand. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Obviously, this loose
arrangement is leading to the
proliferation of extreme
tender-prenuership.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Can anyone point me to
potential local Bill Gates, Larry
Page or Mark Mark Zuckerberg. We
can't use such example to
complicate this discussion. </p>
<p dir="ltr">If anything, we should
be providing a friendly
environment those with money and
great experience invest in highly
scalable startups.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Nothing bars anyone who
falls short of an agreed criteria
from working on it. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Obviously, we cannot
water down such an important
topic. </p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940h5">On
Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM,
"Alfred Kinyua via kictanet"
<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
</div>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940h5">
<p dir="ltr">Two things
stand out, concerning
ICT Authority. <br>
1. Conformance of set
standards (raising the
bar).<br>
2. locking out
unqualified personnel,
where government has
interests .<br>
This is not a trivial
issue, because one might
be qualified but
incompetent (theorists)
/ unsitable, while the
opposite might be true,
unqualufied but
competent/suitable, this
is true for ICT realtad
mattets. Personally I
thing further probing is
required. </p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Dec 1, 2016 22:01,
"Beryl Aidi via
kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Hi All, </div>
<div>Law and
policy seldom
exist in a
vacuum. Does
anyone know
anywhere in the
world where the
kind of
regulation or
ICT standards
being
anticipated to
be used to weed
out quacks have
been used
successfully?
Successfully
here being key,
which means no
victimization of
those without
any
certifications
that may exist;
startups; or
those just
playing around
and happen to
stumble on
something that
may end up
taking the world
by storm; and by
no means a way
to stifle
internet
freedoms. Anyone
knows where such
a model exists?
My two cents.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Beryl Aidi</div>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Dec 1, 2016
at 9:41 PM,
Waithaka Ngigi
via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial" lang="en-US">
<div>In
summary... ICT
is "...A
coalition of
The
Willing..."</div>
<div><br style="display:initial">
</div>
<div>Waithaka Ngigi<br>
<br>
Alliance Technologies<br>
<a href="http://www.at.co.ke" target="_blank">www.at.co.ke</a> </div>
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<div>
<div><b>From:
</b>Collins
Areba via
kictanet</div>
<div><b>Sent:
</b>Thursday,
December 1,
2016 9:30 PM</div>
<div><b>To: </b>Ngigi
Waithaka</div>
<div><b>Reply
To: </b>KICTAnet
ICT Policy
Discussions</div>
<div><b>Cc: </b>Collins
Areba;
KICTAnet ICT
Policy
Discussions</div>
<div><b>Subject:
</b>Re:
[kictanet] ICT
Authority to
weed out
quacks</div>
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</tbody>
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<p dir="ltr">Exactly!
<br>
ICT is a
disruptive
sector. It is
unfortunate
when we
attempt to
define it as
one would
engineering,
or
architecture,
or survey. The
action -
reaction -
feedback -
correction
continum time
wise is soo
tiny. A
decision for
instance in
some of these
association,
say which
colour to
paint a wall
might take
four months. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I
would still
ask, what is
the problem we
are trying to
solve? If this
can be defined
we should be
in a position
to find
solutions
collectively.
</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
1 Dec 2016
21:12,
"Mwendwa
Kivuva" <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">The
said
procurement
quacks are
like Josephine
Kabura. But
they are not
really quacks
because they
work as
conduits for
their masters
in high
places. </p>
<p dir="ltr">If
it was
possible to
weed out
"quacks" from
the industry,
the said
masters would
still use the
"professionals" to commit heinous crimes. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Show
me major
scandals in
Kenya
conducted by
quacks and I
will show you
a liar.
Goldenberg,
Anglo-leasing,
euro bond... </p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Dec 1, 2016
7:36 PM,
"Collins Areba
via kictanet"
<<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">I
believe
regulation
should only be
present where
there is a
limited,
shared
resource that
might be
subject to
abuse. Short
of having a
set of rules:
don't test an
EMP in a built
up area, don't
access
government
servers even
if their
passwords are
admin, admin.
Don't give the
president's
number on
twitter, etc
etc etc. That
is progressive
legislation. </p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
1 Dec 2016
18:24,
"Collins
Areba" <<a href="mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com" target="_blank">arebacollins@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Dorcas:
show me the
chaos. Then we
discuss order.
</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
1 Dec 2016
18:17, "James
Muendo" <<a href="mailto:james@muendo.co.ke" target="_blank">james@muendo.co.ke</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>Collins,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>+1 </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Dec 1,
2016 at 6:15
PM +0300,
"Collins Areba
via kictanet"
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="3D"ltr"">
<p dir="ltr">Personally
I seek
examples of
the damage
done by the
said quacks
that
professional
institutions
haven't done.
The distinct
point of
departure
which will
show the
distinct
difference so
as to justify
regulation.</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
1 Dec 2016
17:32, "waudo
siganga via
kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:medium" dir="ltr">
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661defangedMessage">
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<div>Kivuva,
you forgot
Zuckerberg.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>On Thu,
Dec 1, 2016,
at 11:47 AM,
Mwendwa Kivuva
via kictanet
wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702QuoteMessage" type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">College
drop outs who
rule the
world.
<div> </div>
<div>Michael
Saul Dell,
William Henry
“Bill” Gates
iii, Paul
Gardner Allen,
Lawrence
Joseph
Ellison,
Stephen “Woz”
Wozniak,
Steven Paul
Jobs, Robert
Edward “Ted”
Turner iii</div>
<div><a href="http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/" target="_blank">http://lord.me.ke/college-drop<wbr>outs-who-rule-the-world/</a></div>
<div> </div>
<div>I wonder
who among
those would be
considered an
ICT pro in
Kenya.</div>
</div>
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Mwendwa
Kivuva,
Nairobi, Kenya<br>
<a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
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1 December
2016 at 12:03,
Ali Hussein
via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
wrote:
<blockquote class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>The real
important
question has
not been
answered. Not
since the term
ICT started
being used.</div>
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<div id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186AppleMailSignature">WHO
IS AN ICT
PRACTITIONER? </div>
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<div id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186AppleMailSignature">And
who is this
WATCHDOG who
will abrogate
himself/herself the role of GateKeeper and RentSeeker? </div>
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<div><span><span><span style="font-weight:bold">Ali Hussein</span></span></span></div>
<div><span><span><span style="font-weight:bold">Principal</span></span></span></div>
<div><span><span style="font-weight:bold">Hussein & Associates</span></span></div>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><span><a href="tel:+254%20713%20601113" target="_blank">+254
0713 601113</a> </span></div>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"> </div>
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.c<wbr>om/in/alihkassim</a></span></span></p>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div><span>"Discovery
consists in
seeing what
everyone else
has seen and
thinking what
no one else
has thought".
~ Albert
Szent-Györgyi</span></div>
<div> </div>
<span>Sent
from my iPad</span></div>
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On 1 Dec 2016,
at 10:51 AM,
Athar Ahmad
Bhatti via
kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>Brian
they will
implant a chip
in your brain
and track your
IQ to see
whether you
are fit for
IT. Whereas
the millennial
generation
will lose most
as they are
hands on.<br>
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Ahmad Bhatti<br>
<a href="tel:+254%20726%20488311" target="_blank">+254726488311</a></div>
</div>
<br>
<br>
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Thu, Dec 1,
2016 at 10:43
AM +0300,
"Brian Muhia
via kictanet"
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">This
is only to be
applied to
people trying
to do contract
jobs for the
government,
right?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On
Thu, Dec 1,
2016 at 10:27
AM WANGARI
KABIRU via
kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_111153">Blessed
Thursday!</div>
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<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_111188">Might
the sector be
getting its
shape?</div>
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<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_113091">Private
schooling
started as an
innovative
approach to
education -
now we even
have more
innovative
home schooling
and best
practice
approaches.
Healthcare etc</div>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_117373"> </div>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_117426">Who
has helped to
weed out
quacks
proactively in
most instances
- it is the
industry
associations
working with
the
governments.
An angle to
borrow from.</div>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_119143"> </div>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_119097"><span style="font-style:italic">"....He said the authority will in the next
couple of
weeks launch
ICT standards
where every
professional
in the field
seeking to
serve public
service must
comply.</span></div>
<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" dir="ltr" id="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_119098"><span style="font-style:italic">“One of the things which we are doing very
soon in the
next couple of
weeks, is that
we shall be
launching ICT
standard,
these are ICT
national
standards and
we plan on
having them
effective from
first of
January and
based on that
vendors will
have to comply
with the
standards,”
said the CEO,
adding that
those who will
not comply to
the standards
will be
blacklisted..."</span></div>
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might the
players engage
in the
discourse to
give it shape
while keep its
jelly-nature?</div>
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blessed.</div>
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Regards/Wangari</div>
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<span style="font-size:small;font-weight:bold;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(127,0,63)">Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - </span><span class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(127,0,63)">"Being of the Light, We are Restored Through
Faith in Mind,
Body and
Spirit; We
Manifest The
Kingdom of God
on Earth".</span></span></div>
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<div class="m_-4944195610855841505m_-6512802115653674934m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:Arial">On Thursday, 1 December 2016,
8:43, Ahmed
Mohamed Maawy
via kictanet
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