<p dir="ltr">Bwana Nelson,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Can I say its worth noting that you may be on a Windows or Mac machine sending this email. Either way. The technology you are using right now was developed by college drop outs. I would advise you rid that then.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Also. These lax regulations on innovation led to some of the revolutionary technology which you - I am afraid are benefiting from massively. Youd not be able to even reply to this email if you practiced what you preach right now. From a beneficiaries perspective.</p>
<p dir="ltr">#JustSaying</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 Dec 2016 11:07 a.m., "Nelson J kwaje via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <p>@James, <br>
    </p>
    <p>I like how people are open minded about ICT professional.  it is
      okay to be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications,
      just have passion and be good at what you do. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few 
      regulations, few standards and no regularity body  until we
      realized that our lives depends on these people and their mistakes
      can be catastrophic. <br>
    </p>
    <p>The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors 
      are starting to cause some serious damages  and the society is
      right when it demands some yardstick to know who is who. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ?</p>
    <p>Can you go to the  operating theater  with a passionate and
      committed doctor but no certificate ?<br>
    </p>
    <p>Why will you accept anyone to mange  the system for your bank,
      hospital, airport and even national security.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers <br>
    </p>
    <p>Nelson <br>
    </p><div class="elided-text">
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="m_8395420478504850170moz-cite-prefix">On 02/12/2016 10:42 WD, James Muendo
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Nelson, </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">"we
            can not sit and and watch as the industry gets  diluted in
            the name of innovation and disruption."</span><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px">I
            think what you have quoted there is what drives the
            profession and the industry at large. What you are
            suggesting is we curb creativity of people who seek to curb
            a niche out of the huge industry. As Ahmed said, this is not
            like professions, like, being a doctor or a lawyer that have
            a pre-set set of standards. If anything, the industry
            thrives on its dynamic nature, which leads to disruption and
            innovation. </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px">On
            that I beg to disagree with you. Also, in terms of
            standards, if we look outside .KE, what other country/town
            has ICT standards? </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Am
            with Ngigi in this one, we need to separate business from
            profession. The tricky bit, would be, what criteria will you
            use to do so. </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Regards, </span></div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 2 December 2016 at 10:28, Nelson J
          kwaje via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
              <p>Let us face it, the ICT Industry has a problem with 
                standards,   ambiguity rules the ICT Industry in Kenya. 
                the words below can have as many meanings as the are ICT
                professionals <br>
              </p>
              <ul>
                <li>Cloud Solution <br>
                </li>
                <li>Software Architect</li>
                <li>Software Developer <br>
                </li>
                <li>IoT <br>
                </li>
                <li>Web APP <br>
                </li>
                <li>and many other <br>
                </li>
              </ul>
              <p>we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets 
                diluted in the name of innovation and disruption. <br>
              </p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514moz-cite-prefix">On
                02/12/2016 10:12 WD, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <p dir="ltr">My point is,  chaos are eminent in the
                  industry.  Is it what we want.. NO.</p>
                <p dir="ltr">Then, let's agree on the criteria. ICT
                  Authority is part of the KICTANET community, let's
                  engage them, instead of shooting in your defense.
                  Let's get a constructive multi-stakeholder engagement.
                </p>
                <p dir="ltr">I am afraid that having a few highly
                  opinionated people rule mailing lists stalls
                  multi-stakeholder participation. </p>
                <p dir="ltr">I hope that the ICT Authority is listening
                  somewhere. <br>
                </p>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 2, 2016 10:00 AM,
                    "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
                    wrote:<br type="attribution">
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div>Its not really about why people feel
                              insecure. Its about what policy is meant
                              to do. Why? Technologists are not doctors
                              or lawyers.<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            With all due respect. What does the
                            education system offer as a yardstick for
                            competence? Most of us got jobs before we
                            even graduated school. And we went on to
                            work for projects and institutions that went
                            on to win Awards in the international arena.
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            You see, IT is not about being a Doctor or
                            being a Lawyer (where theory is a factor).
                            IT is an operational field. IT, more than
                            any other field - is based on Talent. Not
                            much on Knowledge. This is why we have so
                            many people out of Uni looking for
                            Internships that they can not find. In a
                            market where the dynamics are governed by
                            people who did not even do that degree - to
                            drive technical jobs.<br>
                            <br>
                            And yes, we have several CEOs in several
                            companies who (and some of them entrepreneur
                            their own way through) did not even do a
                            BCom at the least. Some of them did not even
                            see an higher learning institution.<br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          We need to understand that the market dynamics
                          are shifting. Schools in developing are
                          evolving. Why? <b>Because Technology has
                            changed the education field. The education
                            field is not changing technology.</b>
                          Apologies if we believe so.<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        Just my two cents.<br>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2, 2016
                            at 9:39 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              <div dir="ltr">@Dorcas. 
                                <div>Before we even get to answering why
                                  many people are insecure about the
                                  discussion, I would point to the more
                                  obvious question. What are the
                                  protagonists trying to do? what are
                                  they trying to solve? Unfortunately
                                  thus far, It is not clear. What is in
                                  need of regulation? and why does it
                                  need to be regulated? is this
                                  regulation for regulation's sake? </div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I did mention yesterday that from
                                  my point of view, Regulation makes
                                  sense only where there is a limited
                                  resource, shared by many, which left
                                  without regulation would result in
                                  disorder and "law of the jungle".
                                  Which ICT component is this that needs
                                  to be streamlined to prevent it from
                                  spiralling out of control? </div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>From where I sit, It feels like a
                                  bunch of individuals feel shortchanged
                                  about the time, effort and money they
                                  spent in learning "the science" only
                                  to come out here and find the arena
                                  flattened by the same technology. It
                                  feels like "the bill" which seeks to
                                  assign non existent value to those
                                  that feel some level of entitlement to
                                  that "ict professional" title purely
                                  on the basis of having done ICT
                                  formally. </div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I stand corrected.</div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2,
                                  2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via
                                  kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                    <p dir="ltr">Why are so many people
                                      insecure about this topic.  </p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">Can a bank CEO act as
                                      the principal legal officer of a
                                      bank? Why not?  </p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">Which Innovators are
                                      these people are referring to?  As
                                      far as I know,  most of the
                                      referenced global innovators
                                      dropped out of some computer
                                      science programs and employ
                                      thousands of highly qualified CS
                                      and engineering graduates.</p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">I don't think starting
                                      a box-pushing or software license
                                      reselling entity coupled with
                                      hiring a few technicians can turn
                                      anyone into a domain
                                      professional.  Let's get this
                                      straight and boldly address the
                                      true issues at hand. </p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">Obviously,  this loose
                                      arrangement is leading to the
                                      proliferation of extreme
                                      tender-prenuership.</p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">Can anyone point me to
                                      potential local Bill Gates, Larry
                                      Page or Mark Mark Zuckerberg. We
                                      can't use such example to
                                      complicate this discussion.  </p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">If anything, we should
                                      be providing a friendly
                                      environment those with money and
                                      great experience invest in highly
                                      scalable startups.</p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">Nothing bars anyone who
                                      falls short of an agreed criteria
                                      from working on it. </p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">Obviously,  we cannot
                                      water down such an important
                                      topic. </p>
                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <div>
                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940h5">On
                                            Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM,
                                            "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet"
                                            <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
                                            wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                          <div>
                                            <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940h5">
                                              <p dir="ltr">Two things
                                                stand out, concerning
                                                ICT Authority. <br>
                                                1. Conformance of set
                                                standards (raising the
                                                bar).<br>
                                                2. locking out
                                                unqualified personnel,
                                                where government has
                                                interests .<br>
                                                This is not a trivial
                                                issue, because one might
                                                be qualified but
                                                incompetent (theorists)
                                                / unsitable, while the
                                                opposite might be true,
                                                unqualufied but
                                                competent/suitable, this
                                                is true for ICT realtad
                                                mattets. Personally I
                                                thing further probing is
                                                required.   </p>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  Dec 1, 2016 22:01,
                                                  "Beryl Aidi via
                                                  kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
                                                  wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                    <div dir="ltr">
                                                      <div>Hi All, </div>
                                                      <div>Law and
                                                        policy seldom
                                                        exist in a
                                                        vacuum. Does
                                                        anyone know
                                                        anywhere in the
                                                        world where the
                                                        kind of
                                                        regulation or
                                                        ICT standards
                                                        being
                                                        anticipated to
                                                        be used to weed
                                                        out quacks have
                                                        been used
                                                        successfully?
                                                        Successfully
                                                        here being key,
                                                        which means no
                                                        victimization of
                                                        those without
                                                        any
                                                        certifications
                                                        that may exist;
                                                        startups; or
                                                        those just
                                                        playing around
                                                        and happen to
                                                        stumble on
                                                        something that
                                                        may end up
                                                        taking the world
                                                        by storm; and by
                                                        no means a way
                                                        to stifle
                                                        internet
                                                        freedoms. Anyone
                                                        knows where such
                                                        a model exists?
                                                        My two cents. 
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Beryl Aidi</div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                        Thu, Dec 1, 2016
                                                        at 9:41 PM,
                                                        Waithaka Ngigi
                                                        via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
                                                        wrote:<br>
                                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:initial" lang="en-US">
                                                          <div>In
                                                          summary... ICT
                                                          is "...A
                                                          coalition of
                                                          The
                                                          Willing..."</div>
                                                          <div><br style="display:initial">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Waithaka Ngigi<br>
                                                          <br>
Alliance Technologies<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.at.co.ke" target="_blank">www.at.co.ke</a> </div>
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                                                          <div><b>From:
                                                          </b>Collins
                                                          Areba via
                                                          kictanet</div>
                                                          <div><b>Sent:
                                                          </b>Thursday,
                                                          December 1,
                                                          2016 9:30 PM</div>
                                                          <div><b>To: </b>Ngigi
                                                          Waithaka</div>
                                                          <div><b>Reply
                                                          To: </b>KICTAnet
                                                          ICT Policy
                                                          Discussions</div>
                                                          <div><b>Cc: </b>Collins
                                                          Areba;
                                                          KICTAnet ICT
                                                          Policy
                                                          Discussions</div>
                                                          <div><b>Subject:
                                                          </b>Re:
                                                          [kictanet] ICT
                                                          Authority to
                                                          weed out
                                                          quacks</div>
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                                                          <p dir="ltr">Exactly!
                                                          <br>
                                                          ICT is a
                                                          disruptive
                                                          sector. It is
                                                          unfortunate
                                                          when we
                                                          attempt to
                                                          define it as
                                                          one would
                                                          engineering,
                                                          or
                                                          architecture,
                                                          or survey. The
                                                          action -
                                                          reaction -
                                                          feedback -
                                                          correction
                                                          continum time
                                                          wise is soo
                                                          tiny. A
                                                          decision for
                                                          instance in
                                                          some of these
                                                          association,
                                                          say which
                                                          colour to
                                                          paint a wall
                                                          might take
                                                          four months. </p>
                                                          <p dir="ltr">I
                                                          would still
                                                          ask, what is
                                                          the problem we
                                                          are trying to
                                                          solve? If this
                                                          can be defined
                                                          we should be
                                                          in a position
                                                          to find
                                                          solutions
                                                          collectively.
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          1 Dec 2016
                                                          21:12,
                                                          "Mwendwa
                                                          Kivuva" <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <p dir="ltr">The
                                                          said
                                                          procurement
                                                          quacks are
                                                          like Josephine
                                                          Kabura. But
                                                          they are not
                                                          really quacks
                                                          because they
                                                          work as
                                                          conduits for
                                                          their masters
                                                          in high
                                                          places. </p>
                                                          <p dir="ltr">If
                                                          it was
                                                          possible to
                                                          weed out
                                                          "quacks" from
                                                          the industry,
                                                          the said
                                                          masters would
                                                          still use the
"professionals" to commit heinous crimes. </p>
                                                          <p dir="ltr">Show
                                                          me major
                                                          scandals in
                                                          Kenya
                                                          conducted by
                                                          quacks and I
                                                          will show you
                                                          a liar.
                                                          Goldenberg,
                                                          Anglo-leasing,
                                                          euro bond... </p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Dec 1, 2016
                                                          7:36 PM,
                                                          "Collins Areba
                                                          via kictanet"
                                                          <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
                                                          wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <p dir="ltr">I
                                                          believe
                                                          regulation
                                                          should only be
                                                          present where
                                                          there is a
                                                          limited,
                                                          shared
                                                          resource that
                                                          might be
                                                          subject to
                                                          abuse. Short
                                                          of having a
                                                          set of rules:
                                                          don't test an
                                                          EMP in a built
                                                          up area, don't
                                                          access
                                                          government
                                                          servers even
                                                          if their
                                                          passwords are
                                                          admin, admin.
                                                          Don't give the
                                                          president's
                                                          number on
                                                          twitter, etc
                                                          etc etc. That
                                                          is progressive
                                                          legislation. </p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          1 Dec 2016
                                                          18:24,
                                                          "Collins
                                                          Areba" <<a href="mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com" target="_blank">arebacollins@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <p dir="ltr">Dorcas:
                                                          show me the
                                                          chaos. Then we
                                                          discuss order.
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          1 Dec 2016
                                                          18:17, "James
                                                          Muendo" <<a href="mailto:james@muendo.co.ke" target="_blank">james@muendo.co.ke</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Collins,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>+1 </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <br>
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                                                          Executive
                                                          Officer (CEO),<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          Ltd, <br>
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                                                          – 00200,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Nairobi,KE<br>
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                                                          Gtalk:|
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                                                          T: |
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                                                          Too Brief?
                                                          Here's Why</div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Thu, Dec 1,
                                                          2016 at 6:15
                                                          PM +0300,
                                                          "Collins Areba
                                                          via kictanet"
                                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="3D"ltr"">
                                                          <p dir="ltr">Personally
                                                          I seek
                                                          examples of
                                                          the damage
                                                          done by the
                                                          said quacks
                                                          that
                                                          professional
                                                          institutions
                                                          haven't done.
                                                          The distinct
                                                          point of
                                                          departure
                                                          which will
                                                          show the
                                                          distinct
                                                          difference so
                                                          as to justify
                                                          regulation.</p>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          1 Dec 2016
                                                          17:32, "waudo
                                                          siganga via
                                                          kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
                                                          wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:medium" dir="ltr">
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661defangedMessage">
                                                          <div id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702">
                                                          <div>Kivuva,
                                                          you forgot
                                                          Zuckerberg.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>On Thu,
                                                          Dec 1, 2016,
                                                          at 11:47 AM,
                                                          Mwendwa Kivuva
                                                          via kictanet
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <blockquote class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702QuoteMessage" type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">College
                                                          drop outs who
                                                          rule the
                                                          world. 
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Michael
                                                          Saul Dell,
                                                          William Henry
                                                          “Bill” Gates
                                                          iii, Paul
                                                          Gardner Allen,
                                                          Lawrence
                                                          Joseph
                                                          Ellison,
                                                          Stephen “Woz”
                                                          Wozniak,
                                                          Steven Paul
                                                          Jobs, Robert
                                                          Edward “Ted”
                                                          Turner iii</div>
                                                          <div><a href="http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/" target="_blank">http://lord.me.ke/college-drop<wbr>outs-who-rule-the-world/</a></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I wonder
                                                          who among
                                                          those would be
                                                          considered an
                                                          ICT pro in
                                                          Kenya.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_extra"> 
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_signature">______________________<br>
                                                          Mwendwa
                                                          Kivuva,
                                                          Nairobi, Kenya<br>
                                                          <a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                           
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_quote">On
                                                          1 December
                                                          2016 at 12:03,
                                                          Ali Hussein
                                                          via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
                                                          wrote:
                                                          <blockquote class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>The real
                                                          important
                                                          question has
                                                          not been
                                                          answered. Not
                                                          since the term
                                                          ICT started
                                                          being used.</div>
                                                          <div id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186AppleMailSignature"> </div>
                                                          <div id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186AppleMailSignature">WHO
                                                          IS AN ICT
                                                          PRACTITIONER? </div>
                                                          <div id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186AppleMailSignature"> </div>
                                                          <div id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186AppleMailSignature">And
                                                          who is this
                                                          WATCHDOG who
                                                          will abrogate
himself/herself the role of GateKeeper and RentSeeker? </div>
                                                          <div id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186AppleMailSignature"> 
                                                          <div><span><span><span style="font-weight:bold">Ali Hussein</span></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span><span><span style="font-weight:bold">Principal</span></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span><span style="font-weight:bold">Hussein & Associates</span></span></div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><span><a href="tel:+254%20713%20601113" target="_blank">+254
                                                          0713 601113</a> </span></div>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></span></p>
                                                          <p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></span></p>
                                                          <p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.c<wbr>om/in/alihkassim</a></span></span></p>
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                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span>"Discovery
                                                          consists in
                                                          seeing what
                                                          everyone else
                                                          has seen and
                                                          thinking what
                                                          no one else
                                                          has thought".
                                                           ~ Albert
                                                          Szent-Györgyi</span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <span>Sent
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                                                          On 1 Dec 2016,
                                                          at 10:51 AM,
                                                          Athar Ahmad
                                                          Bhatti via
                                                          kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                           </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Brian
                                                          they will
                                                          implant a chip
                                                          in your brain
                                                          and track your
                                                          IQ to see
                                                          whether you
                                                          are fit for
                                                          IT. Whereas
                                                          the millennial
                                                          generation
                                                          will lose most
                                                          as they are
                                                          hands on.<br>
                                                           
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186acompli_signature">Athar
                                                          Ahmad Bhatti<br>
                                                          <a href="tel:+254%20726%20488311" target="_blank">+254726488311</a></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_quote">On
                                                          Thu, Dec 1,
                                                          2016 at 10:43
                                                          AM +0300,
                                                          "Brian Muhia
                                                          via kictanet"
                                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                           
                                                          <blockquote class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">This
                                                          is only to be
                                                          applied to
                                                          people trying
                                                          to do contract
                                                          jobs for the
                                                          government,
                                                          right?</div>
                                                           
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_quote">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">On
                                                          Thu, Dec 1,
                                                          2016 at 10:27
                                                          AM WANGARI
                                                          KABIRU via
                                                          kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <blockquote class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg">
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px">
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_111153">Blessed
                                                          Thursday!</div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_111190"> </div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_111188">Might
                                                          the sector be
                                                          getting its
                                                          shape?</div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_111387"> </div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_113091">Private
                                                          schooling
                                                          started as an
                                                          innovative
                                                          approach to
                                                          education -
                                                          now we even
                                                          have more
                                                          innovative
                                                          home schooling
                                                          and best
                                                          practice
                                                          approaches.
                                                          Healthcare etc</div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_117373"> </div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_117426">Who
                                                          has helped to
                                                          weed out
                                                          quacks
                                                          proactively in
                                                          most instances
                                                          - it is the
                                                          industry
                                                          associations
                                                          working with
                                                          the
                                                          governments.
                                                          An angle to
                                                          borrow from.</div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_119143"> </div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_119097"><span style="font-style:italic">"....He said the authority will in the next
                                                          couple of
                                                          weeks launch
                                                          ICT standards
                                                          where every
                                                          professional
                                                          in the field
                                                          seeking to
                                                          serve public
                                                          service must
                                                          comply.</span></div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" dir="ltr" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_119098"><span style="font-style:italic">“One of the things which we are doing very
                                                          soon in the
                                                          next couple of
                                                          weeks, is that
                                                          we shall be
                                                          launching ICT
                                                          standard,
                                                          these are ICT
                                                          national
                                                          standards and
                                                          we plan on
                                                          having them
                                                          effective from
                                                          first of
                                                          January and
                                                          based on that
                                                          vendors will
                                                          have to comply
                                                          with the
                                                          standards,”
                                                          said the CEO,
                                                          adding that
                                                          those who will
                                                          not comply to
                                                          the standards
                                                          will be
                                                          blacklisted..."</span></div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_117511"> </div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_114849">How
                                                          might the
                                                          players engage
                                                          in the
                                                          discourse to
                                                          give it shape
                                                          while keep its
                                                          jelly-nature?</div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_111304"> </div>
                                                          <div class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" id="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186m_-6042968109828249084yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480566535993_111193">Be
                                                          blessed.</div>
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Regards/Wangari</div>
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                                                          <span style="font-size:small;font-weight:bold;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(127,0,63)">Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - </span><span class="m_8395420478504850170m_-1933447602991598514m_8638345257962666304m_6736236900037387786m_-9065310625264948940m_-3789602761194169848m_-2491844441339529592m_486855491710563922m_-5848686397181900750m_7116470441560759029m_-5621708450387178104m_-8000305050500408121m_6288272219551821790m_-1890318195557909661me94702m_-5883485225134570186gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(127,0,63)">"Being of the Light, We are Restored Through
                                                          Faith in Mind,
                                                          Body and
                                                          Spirit; We
                                                          Manifest The
                                                          Kingdom of God
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                                                          8:43, Ahmed
                                                          Mohamed Maawy
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