<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This has become the norm in Kenya now. The trend has become to licence activities which never used to be licensed.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I remember the Science, Technology and Innovation Act of 2015 (I think) which became law and requires licences for any kind of research. In other words, you cannot do research as part of your business without getting a licence.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There was an attempt to form the Kenya Accreditation Agency (another privately sponsored bill by Hon. Duale) which failed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We recently had ICT Practitioners Bill which flopped.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(I’m sure there are many others which do not directly impact me.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now this… it’s copy cat scheme to privatise rights.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 9 Oct 2016, at 19:46, <a href="mailto:kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Send kictanet mailing list submissions to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..."<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. Proposed Film Bill (Mildred Achoch)<br class=""> 2. Re: Proposed Film Bill (Tony White)<br class=""> 3. Re: Proposed Film Bill (Mildred Achoch)<br class=""> 4. Re: Proposed Film Bill (waudo siganga)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 18:36:41 +0300<br class="">From: Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com><br class="">To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br class="">Subject: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CADHwjVQbgt8ZcJ0zxEt3soPsTmx2E_eC2qABvU6UfecLwUhkEA@mail.gmail.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Dear Listers,<br class=""><br class="">There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the<br class="">Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film bill<br class="">from 8.30am.<br class=""><br class="">Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts of<br class="">at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering<br class="">whether Kictanet is aware of this?<br class=""><br class="">The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT community,<br class="">including ISP providers.<br class=""><br class="">As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the<br class="">proposed bill. Here is just one example:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Mildred Achoch.<br class=""><br class="">Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!<br class="">http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com<br class="">-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20161009/c69e7c58/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 2<br class="">Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:02:52 +0300<br class="">From: Tony White <tony.mzungu@gmail.com><br class="">To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br class="">Subject: Re: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CANpB6uBb=CyfLFUjrVc+-E_YiAPpxV_4FSk8AACqZhNnZmWOow@mail.gmail.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br class=""><br class="">Mildred,<br class=""><br class="">This?<br class=""><br class="">kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-Draft-10.pdf<br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class="">Tony<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet<br class=""><kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear Listers,<br class=""><br class="">There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the<br class="">Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film bill<br class="">from 8.30am.<br class=""><br class="">Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts of<br class="">at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering<br class="">whether Kictanet is aware of this?<br class=""><br class="">The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT community,<br class="">including ISP providers.<br class=""><br class="">As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the<br class="">proposed bill. Here is just one example:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Mildred Achoch.<br class=""><br class="">Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!<br class="">http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Tony White<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 3<br class="">Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2016 21:30:54 +0300<br class="">From: Mildred Achoch <mildandred@gmail.com><br class="">To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br class="">Subject: Re: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><CADHwjVS7Hs6zarkhfQg_P9B6KtEkXadhsquQYK0T_Y5-oD+9FA@mail.gmail.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class=""><br class="">Dear Tony,<br class=""><br class="">Yes, it's the one. Of special interest to ISPs is section 39.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Mildred Achoch.<br class=""><br class="">Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!<br class="">http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Tony White via kictanet <<br class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Mildred,<br class=""><br class="">This?<br class=""><br class="">kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-Draft-10.pdf<br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class="">Tony<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet<br class=""><kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear Listers,<br class=""><br class="">There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016* at the<br class="">Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed film<br class=""></blockquote>bill<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">from 8.30am.<br class=""><br class="">Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and contacts<br class=""></blockquote>of<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum. I was wondering<br class="">whether Kictanet is aware of this?<br class=""><br class="">The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT<br class=""></blockquote>community,<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">including ISP providers.<br class=""><br class="">As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in the<br class="">proposed bill. Here is just one example:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Mildred Achoch.<br class=""><br class="">Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!<br class="">http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Tony White<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">kictanet mailing list<br class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br class="">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/<br class="">mailman/options/kictanet/mildandred%40gmail.com<br class=""><br class="">The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform<br class="">for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br class="">regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT<br class="">sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br class=""><br class="">KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br class="">online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,<br class="">share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do<br class="">not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20161009/b7244df3/attachment-0001.html><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 4<br class="">Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:44:49 +0300<br class="">From: waudo siganga <emailsignet@mailcan.com><br class="">To: Mildred Achoch via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br class="">Subject: Re: [kictanet] Proposed Film Bill<br class="">Message-ID:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><1476038689.3056205.750484889.6E23AD77@webmail.messagingengine.com><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br class=""><br class="">Interesting.<br class=""><br class="">1. I thought a KFCB already existed, or which is that one of Mutau who<br class=""> has been having problems with US visa and suppressing and opposing<br class=""> LGBT rights and atheists?<br class="">2. It's like an afterthought that someone decided to throw in the<br class=""> computer games. Is one supposed to obtain a licence to write or<br class=""> create these games like with films. The part of the document that<br class=""> deals with films and stage plays substantively does not deal with<br class=""> computer games.<br class="">3. The part about ISPs is thrown in by someone who is completely<br class=""> ignorant. ISPs do not deal with content; they don't even see it<br class=""> (and they should not!). An ISP is just a conduit or facilitator. Do<br class=""> these people expect an ISP to employ people to screen content of<br class=""> their clients?<br class="">4. If we are not careful Kenya will start going backwards as more people<br class=""> come up with all kinds of proposed legislation; what is there to stop<br class=""> film makers moving to neighbouring countries and taking all those<br class=""> jobs with them?<br class="">5. Speak up!<br class=""><br class="">W.<br class=""><br class="">On Sun, Oct 9, 2016, at 09:30 PM, Mildred Achoch via kictanet wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear Tony,<br class=""><br class=""> Yes, it's the one. Of special interest to ISPs is section 39.<br class=""><br class=""> Regards, Mildred Achoch.<br class=""><br class="">Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!<br class="">http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Tony White via kictanet<br class=""><kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Mildred,<br class=""><br class=""> This?<br class=""><br class="">kfcb.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DRAFT-BILL-KFCB-21-7-<br class="">Draft-10.pdf<br class=""><br class=""> Cheers, Tony<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> On 09/10/2016, Mildred Achoch via kictanet<br class=""> <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear Listers,<br class=""><br class="">There will be a stakeholders meeting on the *11th of October 2016*<br class="">at the<br class="">Louis Leakey Auditorium, National Museum, to discuss the proposed<br class="">film bill<br class="">from 8.30am.<br class=""><br class="">Each guild or association is supposed to forward the names and<br class="">contacts of at least 7 members so that they can attend the forum.<br class="">I was wondering whether Kictanet is aware of this?<br class=""><br class="">The proposed film bill will definitely have an impact on the ICT<br class="">community, including ISP providers.<br class=""><br class="">As a filmmaker, I am very concerned with a lot of the details in<br class="">the proposed bill. Here is just one example:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Mildred Achoch.<br class=""><br class="">Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!<br class="">http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""> --<br class=""> Tony White<br class=""><br class=""> _______________________________________________<br class=""> kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br class=""> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br class=""><br class=""> Unsubscribe or change your options at<br class=""> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mildandred%40gmail.com<br class=""><br class=""> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder<br class=""> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT<br class=""> policy and regulation. 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