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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I think if someone insults you, you sue for liable because you have to prove to the courts that what was said was not true.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 24, 2016 8:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> awatila@yahoo.co.uk<br><b>Cc:</b> Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Tanzanian lecturer charged with insulting president on WhatsApp<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Question: Is insulting a <b>cybercrime</b> per se?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As a mwanainchi why cant I arrest a person for insulting me on WhatsApp? (Let along Facebook or Twitter) ??<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>It shouldn't matter if he insulted or criticised. It's laws like this that are used to shut down legitimate criticism. Studies have shown just the threat of censure/arrest has wide effects outside the person being censured/arrested.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bringing this back to a local context, isn't the law that got Wadi arrested still on the books?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 23 September 2016 at 17:16, Mildred Achoch via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>The nature of the insult was not indicated in the article. I'm just wondering whether the lecturer insulted or criticized. There is a difference between the two...or is there?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Mildred Achoch.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel! <br><a href="http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#111111'>A Tanzanian lecturer has been charged with insulting President John Magufuli in a WhatsApp message, a senior police official said on Friday, <b>bringing the number of people charged under a tough new cybercrimes law to 10.</b></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank">http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='margin-bottom:15.0pt;overflow:auto'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="90%" style='width:90.0%;background:white;border-top:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-right:none'><tr><td width=250 valign=top style='width:187.5pt;border:none;padding:15.0pt 15.0pt 15.0pt .75pt'><div style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;min-height:169px;display:table'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;background:white'><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></a></p></div></td><td valign=top style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in;display:table-cell'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:15.75pt'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif;color:#0078D7'><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0078D7;text-decoration:none'><span style='color:blue'>Tanzanian lecturer charged with insulting president on WhatsApp</span><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></p></div><div style='margin-top:7.5pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;line-height:10.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666'><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank"><span style='color:#666666;text-decoration:none'><u><span style='color:blue'>www.reuters.com</span></u><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666'><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank"><span style='color:#666666;text-decoration:none'>A Tanzanian lecturer has been charged with insulting President John Magufuli in a WhatsApp message, a senior police official said on Friday, bringing the number of people charged under a tough new cybercrimes law to 10.<o:p></o:p></span></a></span></p></div></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></span></p><p style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tanzania-president-idUSKCN11T14C?il=0" target="_blank"><span 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