<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Rosemary and all</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">The polarization issue is real. My main bone of contention here is not whether the radio stations will be expensive, create polarization etc. The arguments presented so far are akin to a debate over a knife:- </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Is it useful or harmful? </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Let's get back to the real issue. And Grace Bomu articulated it well by going back to the constitution. This is the problem with this country. If we just focused on our responsibilities as citizens we won't be discussing how counties are bad and that they are misusing funds, polarizing us etc. WE put them there. We have the right to recall governors or vote them out. <br><br><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0713 601113 </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 21 Sep 2016, at 2:35 PM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I agree with Grace and Eshuchi, <div><br></div><div>Devolution in some instances has caused fantastic transformation in the grassroots however on the down side it has the potential to cause extreme polarization. What we are seeing today are micro-kingdoms being created in each county and I honestly feel that giving radio frequencies to individual counties will have a negative impact on national unity. Until vernacular stations were tamed we saw the potential damage that was caused in this nation's history, this is entirely unnecessary and the current communication channels are adequate, we must struggle to find ways to improve our nationhood.</div><div><br></div><div>The argument for the county radio stations is akin to devolving security, each country would create its own little armies.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards, </div><div><br></div><div>Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind reg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I am with you on this one Eshuchi. There are many radio stations that the country governments could consider going into partnerships with, and still meet their communication goals. </p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] CA denies governors radio permits - Daily Nation</div></div></font>
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<font face="Calibri, Slate Pro, sans-serif, sans-serif">Establishing mechanisms does not necessarily mean setting up of own radio stations. </font></div>
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<font face="Calibri, Slate Pro, sans-serif, sans-serif">Creating partnerships with existing stations that already have listenership in the counties would serve as a mechanism to facilitate public communication which in my view, is more prudent with regard to
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<font face="Calibri, Slate Pro, sans-serif, sans-serif">A media station requires diverse content, everyday. After communicating a public announcement, what else would air?</font></div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Interesting. How do we interpret Part IX of the County Governments Act? </div>
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I suspect this has more to do with frequency availability. On a<br>
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