<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Well, there is the matter of whether this is a Senate-level element of legislation, as Alex pointed out. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This cybersecurity space runs a big risk of being over-legislated, without coherence. This is a key finding from the mapping exercise we have been conducting. There is a serious need, not only for harmonisation of bills, but also of efforts to introduce legislative frameworks. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Will share more on our findings at the IGF next week. </div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 3 Aug 2016, at 20:57, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" class="">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hi Nanjira, Alex and Listers,<br class=""><br class="">I have perused the bill and have the following observations:<br class=""><br class="">1. This bill is Sponsored by Hon Mutahi Kagwe Chairman of the Senate<br class="">ICT Commitee whereas the Computer and Cybercrimes bill is Sponsored by<br class="">Leader of the Majority Hon Duale<br class="">2. Both bills share the same objective, i have observed that Hon<br class="">Duale's bill which was discussed on KICTANET last week is more<br class="">punitive (Fines in Millions) while Hon Kagwe's is lenient (Fines are<br class="">in hundreds of thousands.<br class="">3. I have observed that the Cyber Security and Protection Bill leans a<br class="">lot towards critical Internet Infrastructure whereas the Computer and<br class="">Cyber Crimes Bill focuses on Cyber crime and Child Online Protection,<br class="">however both bills have strong emphasis on Cyber Security.<br class="">4. The Cyber Security and Protection Bill justifies the need for Cyber<br class="">Security laws within the county government framework.<br class="">5. Overall both are good attempts but there is need for harmonization.<br class=""><br class="">Best Regards<br class=""><br class="">On 8/3/16, Alex Watila via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear all,<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Please note that senate only needs to be involved on laws touching on<br class="">county<br class="">functions listed in schedule 4 of cok 2010<br class=""><<a href="http://www.klrc.go.ke/index.php/constitution-of-kenya/167-schedules-schedul" class="">http://www.klrc.go.ke/index.php/constitution-of-kenya/167-schedules-schedul</a><br class="">es/fourth-schedule-distribution-of-functions-between-national-and-the-county<br class="">-governments/448-2-county-governments><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">My understanding is that cyber security is a national function<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Alex<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: kictanet<br class="">[<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On<br class="">Behalf<br class="">Of henry--- via kictanet<br class="">Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 5:03 PM<br class="">To: <a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk" class="">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a><br class="">Cc: <a href="mailto:henry@article19.org" class="">henry@article19.org</a>; Nanjira Sambuli <<a href="mailto:email@nanjira.com" class="">email@nanjira.com</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cyber Security and Data Protection (Senate) Bill<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----- Original Message -----<br class=""><br class="">From: "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" <<br class=""><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br class=""><br class="">To:  <<a href="mailto:henry@article19.org" class="">mailto:henry@article19.org</a>> <a href="mailto:henry@article19.org" class="">henry@article19.org</a><br class=""><br class="">Cc: "Nanjira Sambuli" < <<a href="mailto:email@nanjira.com" class="">mailto:email@nanjira.com</a>> <a href="mailto:email@nanjira.com" class="">email@nanjira.com</a>><br class=""><br class="">Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 4:49:03 PM<br class=""><br class="">Subject: [kictanet] Cyber Security and Data Protection (Senate) Bill<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Anyone familiar with the genesis of this bill?<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><<a href="http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/CyberSecurityandPr" class="">http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/CyberSecurityandPr</a><br class="">otectionBill_2016.pdf><br class=""><a href="http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/CyberSecurityandPro" class="">http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/CyberSecurityandPro</a><br class="">tectionBill_2016.pdf<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Wasnt aware of this version. It seems like the older version of the Bill<br class="">developed by the ODPP.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Henry<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Nanjira.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPhone.<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">kictanet mailing list<br class=""><br class=""> <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br class=""><br class=""> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet><br class="">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe or change your options at<br class=""><https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/henry%40article19.org<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/henry%40article19.org<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for<br class="">people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br class="">regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT<br class="">sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and<br class="">development.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br class="">online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,<br class="">share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do<br class="">not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class=""><br class="">kictanet mailing list<br class=""><br class=""> <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br class=""><br class=""> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet><br class="">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Unsubscribe or change your options at<br class=""><https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote>https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40yahoo.co.uk<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for<br class="">people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and<br class="">regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT<br class="">sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and<br class="">development.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors<br class="">online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,<br class="">share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do<br class="">not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Barrack O. Otieno<br class="">+254721325277<br class="">+254733206359<br class="">Skype: barrack.otieno<br class="">PGP ID: 0x2611D86A<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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