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<div>Thanks Kivuva. Of course we just needed to show that we are doing something but in my view; the bill is a load of nonsense that will not succeed. I have been in this industry/profession for over 35 years having been in the first computer science class in Chiromo in 1980 so my views should be useful; it's just sad the whole thing was plotted as an ambush until as late a having it in Parliament -possibly after sensing that it would generate a lot of resistance. We are together and I'm pleased I have so far not seen anyone supporting the bill on this list. I hope it's not passed, but if it is, it will at best not work and at worst inconvenience a lot of people.</div>
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<div>On Fri, Jul 8, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva wrote:</div>
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<div>The industry has tackled the bill on multiple fronts. There have been memoranda from multiple sources to parliament in rejection of the bill in totality. Distinguished progressive Members of the National Assembly have also been contacted to fight for the interests of the community, and moreso the youth. All this effort culminated with the CS of ICT issuing the statement that went out on Wednesday. </div>
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<div>On that note, and to strengthen the process, it would be great if CSK approach it's lawyers, and members, and also submits a response to the Clerk of the National Assembly. Together we are stronger.</div>
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<div class="me08357gmail_quote">On 8 July 2016 at 10:37, waudo siganga via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:
<blockquote class="me08357gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ali, Koris, Ngigi, and others - I hope we still get some advise from our<br />
ICT legal minds e.g. Bomu, Muriungi, Sihanhya, etc. in order to have a<br />
structured way forward Where, for example, and in what format does one<br />
present objections to the MPs since the bill has already been rushed<br />
there? Is it too late to stop the MPs from even considering it? How come<br />
the CS has disowned it and yet it is still moving forward?<br />
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On Fri, Jul 8, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet wrote:<br />
> Ali,<br />
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> It's very clear now where this bill most likely comes from!<br />
><br />
> And any one whose line of thought starts with "...the rate at which<br />
> technology evolves does not outstrip existing policy and legal<br />
> frameworks..." clearly does *not* understand technology, which always<br />
> outstrips policy & legal frameworks.<br />
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> If ICTAK wants to regulate it's own members, fine. Let them draft the<br />
> most draconian and I'll thought regulations they can. Just don't impose<br />
> them onto the rest of us.<br />
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> On another note, the ones with the 'powers'; the name ICTAK uses, is it<br />
> legal? It seems to give credence to the fact that they represent ICT<br />
> practitioners in Kenya, which the do not.<br />
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> Waithaka Ngigi<br />
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> Alliance Technologies<br />
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> Original Message <br />
> From: Ali Hussein via kictanet<br />
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 9:09 AM<br />
> To: Ngigi Waithaka<br />
> Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br />
> Cc: Ali Hussein<br />
> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: STATEMENT ON THE INFORMATION COMMUNICATION<br />
> TECHNOLOGY (ICT) PRACTITIONERS BILL 2016 BY ICTA<br />
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> Listers<br />
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> Please see attached. Clearly we have a fight in our hands. Let's not let<br />
> up on this.<br />
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> Ali Hussein<br />
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