<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br>Always good to have you back, Bwana Daktari. We miss your valuable & insightful contributions of yore..<br><br></div>I was just about to respond to Kulubi's contribution, when your post came up. It aptly sums it up..! In an earlier post I alluded to some 14 years that have been nothing short of a truly amazing, tremendous story in the ICT space, why..? Because during this time, the previously heavily regulated space opened up and was liberalized and from there on, there was no looking back, and everyone can attest to the achievements to date in the sector. Again why..? Because, while those with regulatory mandate and oversight had all within their power to further stifle innovation and growth, they instead wisely chose to only promote a regulatory framework that sought to create an enabling environment for this space to thrive. And towards this, you played your rightful role, facilitating and engaging constantly with stakeholders even right here on this forum. With one single stroke of a pen, we can build on or lay to waste post-haste what we achieved over the period. So be forewarned.. But again, who is listening out here..??<br><br><br>Thanks James for putting the whole bill into perspective..<br><br></div>Regards,<br></div>Harry<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Bitange Ndemo via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Here we shall kill innovation and set ourselves back to 25 years ago. Good people, let us stop this by all means.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ndemo.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 8:41 PM, James Kulubi via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">The fact
that the Bill has been presented to Parliament before the ICT Policy review
process is completed means that it will be very difficult to administer it when
enacted into law. Usually, the policy sets vision and mission for the sector
for a foreseeable future. The policy may have a human resource development
component. The policy is then implemented through legislation, government budget
and regulations. When I read the reason and memorandum of the bill, the only policy
statement that I can see is ‘to establish a legal framework for the training,
registration, licensing, practice and standards of Information Communication
Technology (ICT) professionals in Kenya.’</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">The ICT
practitioners bill therefore creates some unusual situation. Those who can remember,
we in the ICT sector faced a similar situation in the period 2005 – 2007. There
were many people supporting the legislation of the Media Bill but there were
serious disagreements on the media council membership; licensing of media
practitioners; the role of the government; the role of the media owners; regulation
of print and electronic media, offences, and the financing of the Council. </font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">The
government, for instance, while supporting the establishment of the Media
Council, did not want the Council to be financed from foreign sources. On the
other hand, some media practitioners did not want to be financed by the
government. The middle ground was funding
by member subscriptions and accreditation. This too was opposed by many media practitioners.</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Eventually,
a policy was developed through public consultation covering such aspects as
media ownership, accreditation of journalists, code of conduct of journalists
and the broadcasting code, etc.</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">In my view the
policy informing the ICT professional
bill should have borrowed heavily from the outcome of current ICT policy review
process and been subjected to wider stakeholder consultation. The following issues,
for instance, require wider consultation.</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">1. The definition
provided for ICT practitioner which I quote ‘ICT practitioner (ICTP)"
means a person registered under this Act as an ICT practitioner who is also
licensed under section 20 to practice’ is vague, misleading and may be viewed
as discriminating.</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">2. Many ICT
professionals qualify or are already registered by other organizations. These
include those in fields like Telecommunication Engineering, Computer
Engineering, Medical Information Systems, financial information systems, etc. </font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">3. The
eligibility for registration which is stated as ‘holder of at least a
bachelor's degree in an ICT related field from a recognized university,’ is vague
and can be abused. Already, we have other fields like engineering where applicants
for registration are suffering due to this condition. Graduates from countries
like USSR which offer MSc as first degrees cannot be registered. Similarly,
those with Higher National Diploma who have gone ahead to get MSc and even PhD
cannot be registered! Further, in some universities like Maseno all degree
programmes have an extension ‘with ICT.’ How will the Council treat these degrees?</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">4. Technologists
have drafted another bill which is before Parliament. How will the
Technologists bill co-exist with the ICT practitioners bill?</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">5. There
are many institutions carrying out institutional accreditation and
certification of ICT practitioners. How will such accreditation and certification
be treated by the Council?</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Best
regards,</font></span></div><div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 8pt" dir="ltr"><span lang="EN-GB"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Prof. James
Kulubi</font></span></div><div>
</div> <div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div><div> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, 6 July 2016, 19:10, Wangari Kabiru via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> </div></div><div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr">Blessed Wednesday!</div>
<div dir="ltr">A handshake to the 2014 article!</div>
<div dir="ltr">There is a great opportunity for Techies to take their rightful place as professionals and be invited to give valued contributions to the nation building table.</div>
<div dir="ltr">As I said earlier, non-Techs will be there. Perhaps another classification within the broader "ICT Professional".</div>
<div dir="ltr">*ICT Practitioners - sounds like a very broad term to attempt to compact and create shared guidelines/standards.</div>
<div dir="ltr">On the said ICT Practitioners Bill - it seems that part of the issue is with regard to who is/are behind it. All in all, to have gotten a hearing, it means this is an organised group.<br>
Which is perhaps what this community might seek to engage with and build together before "shooting the innovator".</div>
<div dir="ltr">Blessed day.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Regards/Wangari</div>
<div>On Jul 6, 2016 15:47, Alex Watila via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d">Thanks Walu,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d">What is the way forward on the bill?</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d">Regards,</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d">Alex</span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:11pt;color:#1f497d"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"> Walubengo J [mailto:<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 6, 2016 3:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Dennis Muthuri <<a href="mailto:muthuridennis@gmail.com" target="_blank">muthuridennis@gmail.com</a>>; Alex Watila <<a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Kenya ICT Practitioners Bill - Walu's Views</span></div></div></div><div> </div><div><div><div style="background:white"><span style="color:black">@Alex, @Muthuri,</span></div></div><div><div style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Thnx for 'bursting' me @</span></div></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html</a> </span></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br></div></div><span>_______________________________________________<br>kictanet mailing list<br><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br><br></span>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkulubi%40yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jkulubi%40yahoo.co.uk</a><span><br><br>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.<br><br>KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.<br><br></span></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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