<p dir="ltr">The policy could encourage the adoption of the standards.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I was informed the countries are actually competing on the number of professionals and organizations certified on the various standards.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from Samsung tablet</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 4, 2016 12:20 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:<br type='attribution'><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:'helveticaneue' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , 'lucida grande' , sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr">on KEBS, I would say the do have various and serious ICT standards as adopted from the global ISO standards.</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">However, these standards would be useful from a regulatory level. Perhaps at a policy level we just need to throw in a clause to point the regulator to enforce these standards as and when applicable.</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">The other challenge ofcourse is that the ISO standards tend to be optional - except those that are health/safety related. So in some cases, a trade-off may need to be acknowledged by the regulator.</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">walu.</div><div><br /><br /></div><div style="display:block" class="elided-text"> <div style="font-family:'helveticaneue' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , 'lucida grande' , sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:'helveticaneue' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , 'lucida grande' , sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> </font><hr size="1" /> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br /> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> jwalu@yahoo.com <br /><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com><br /> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 4, 2016 11:38 AM<br /> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] National ICT Policy Discussions: Day 9 of 10: Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework<br /> </div> <div><br />@ Alex,<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />You bring in a very important point Kenya Bureu of Standards<br clear="none" />Kenyanizes hundreds of International Standards that are very good yet<br clear="none" />are hardly used within the local context. I think Standards play a<br clear="none" />critical role in the developement of the sector and ought to be<br clear="none" />enforced to say the least?, i wonder what @ Walu or @ Kivuva can say<br clear="none" />from a KEBS and ISACA perspective. I would also have liked to hear the<br clear="none" />opinion of Waudo Siganga, (CSK), Kamotho Njenga ICT Association of<br clear="none" />Kenya and the ISACA Kenya Chapter President Roy or Preston on this<br clear="none" />matter.<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Finally i have gone through the standard and did not see anything on<br clear="none" />Consumer protection, did i miss something?<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />Regards<br clear="none" /><br clear="none" />On 7/4/16, Alex Watila via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" />> Dear All,<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Could the representatives of egov, icta, CA, Min of ICT clarify share their<br clear="none" />> main mandates to make the discussion more informed.<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> I also still have the feeling that other relevant bodies need to be roped in<br clear="none" />> so that the policy is aligned .e.g.<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> * Standards – KEBS is the custodian of ISO related standards that<br clear="none" />> include many with impact on ICT. E.g. Information Security Management<br clear="none" />> Standards, Record Management Standards, IT Services Management etc<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> * Archiving – we discussed the role of KCB but also Kenya National<br clear="none" />> Archives has a mandate and needs to be encouraged to provide this archived<br clear="none" />> information in a digital format.<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Regards,<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Alex<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> From: kictanet<br clear="none" />> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=<a shape="rect" href="mailto:yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke">yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On Behalf<br clear="none" />> Of Ali Hussein via kictanet<br clear="none" />> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 10:46 AM<br clear="none" />> To: <a shape="rect" href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a><br clear="none" />> Cc: Ali Hussein <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br clear="none" />> Subject: Re: [kictanet] National ICT Policy Discussions: Day 9 of 10:<br clear="none" />> Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> @Walu and all<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> I have always find it very confusing to remember all the various players and<br clear="none" />> their roles in the ICT Ministry. Might there be a justification to<br clear="none" />> rationalize them? Like the process that the eGovernment Dept and the<br clear="none" />> predecessor to the ICT Authority went through?<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> The other issue is one of independence and confusion of the different<br clear="none" />> players in the sector. We see the CA sometimes dabbling in policy and the<br clear="none" />> Ministry in regulations. Sometimes the line is murky true..but we must<br clear="none" />> endeavor to respect those roles.<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> How does the policy address this issue?<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Ali Hussein<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Principal<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Hussein & Associates<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Twitter: @AliHKassim<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Skype: abu-jomo<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> LinkedIn: <a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what<br clear="none" />> no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Sent from my iPad<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> On 4 Jul 2016, at 8:58 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet<br clear="none" />> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> <mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> ><br clear="none" />> wrote:<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Listers,<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> @Barrack had introduced the above theme over the weekend but looks like<br clear="none" />> folks were on a family day off. So agreed to have today to see if we can get<br clear="none" />> views on this matter and then wrap up everthting tomorrow.<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> ----<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Day 9 of 10: Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Role of Regulator, USAC, CERTs, NCS, ICTA, PCK, CSO, Professional Bodies<br clear="none" />> etc<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Needed Legislation, Data Protection, eTransaction, Intermediary Liability<br clear="none" />> etc<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> The Background:<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Now that we have discussed most of the issues, it is time to look at the<br clear="none" />> governance framework for the same. Traditionally, the key governance actors<br clear="none" />> have been the ICT Parliamentary Committees, the ICT Ministry, the National<br clear="none" />> Communication Secretariate (NCS), the ICT regulator, the ICT Authority, the<br clear="none" />> ICT (Multimedia) Appeals Tribunal,etc.<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> The market players have been the Operators, Postal Agency, Courier Services,<br clear="none" />> Application Service Providers.<br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />><br clear="none" />> Have these entities worked well for us or do we want to delete, add or<br clear="none" />> restructures some of them? 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