<div dir="ltr"><div>While we discuss policy, I think the challenge will remain who really are the policy makers?</div><div><br></div><div>Came across this and was a real eye opener, felt the gentleman was a bit clueless</div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri Light","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36682694" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36682694</a></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri Light","sans-serif""><br></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri Light","sans-serif""><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 10:38 AM, awatila--- via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">The policy could encourage the adoption of the standards.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I was informed the countries are actually competing on the number of professionals and organizations certified on the various standards.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from Samsung tablet</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 4, 2016 12:20 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"helveticaneue","helvetica neue","helvetica","arial","lucida grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div dir="ltr">on KEBS, I would say the do have various and serious ICT standards as adopted from the global ISO standards.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">However, these standards would be useful from a regulatory level. Perhaps at a policy level we just need to throw in a clause to point the regulator to enforce these standards as and when applicable.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The other challenge ofcourse is that the ISO standards tend to be optional - except those that are health/safety related. So in some cases, a trade-off may need to be acknowledged by the regulator.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">walu.</div><div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:"helveticaneue","helvetica neue","helvetica","arial","lucida grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:"helveticaneue","helvetica neue","helvetica","arial","lucida grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 4, 2016 11:38 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] National ICT Policy Discussions: Day 9 of 10: Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework<br> </div> <div><br>@ Alex,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">You bring in a very important point Kenya Bureu of Standards<br clear="none">Kenyanizes hundreds of International Standards that are very good yet<br clear="none">are hardly used within the local context. I think Standards play a<br clear="none">critical role in the developement of the sector and ought to be<br clear="none">enforced to say the least?, i wonder what @ Walu or @ Kivuva can say<br clear="none">from a KEBS and ISACA perspective. I would also have liked to hear the<br clear="none">opinion of Waudo Siganga, (CSK), Kamotho Njenga ICT Association of<br clear="none">Kenya and the ISACA Kenya Chapter President Roy or Preston on this<br clear="none">matter.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Finally i have gone through the standard and did not see anything on<br clear="none">Consumer protection, did i miss something?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Regards<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 7/4/16, Alex Watila via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" shape="rect">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> Dear All,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Could the representatives of egov, icta, CA, Min of ICT clarify share their<br clear="none">> main mandates to make the discussion more informed.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I also still have the feeling that other relevant bodies need to be roped in<br clear="none">> so that the policy is aligned .e.g.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> * Standards – KEBS is the custodian of ISO related standards that<br clear="none">> include many with impact on ICT. E.g. Information Security Management<br clear="none">> Standards, Record Management Standards, IT Services Management etc<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> * Archiving – we discussed the role of KCB but also Kenya National<br clear="none">> Archives has a mandate and needs to be encouraged to provide this archived<br clear="none">> information in a digital format.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Regards,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Alex<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> From: kictanet<br clear="none">> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bawatila" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+awatila</a>=<a href="mailto:yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" shape="rect">yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] On Behalf<br clear="none">> Of Ali Hussein via kictanet<br clear="none">> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 10:46 AM<br clear="none">> To: <a href="mailto:awatila@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" shape="rect">awatila@yahoo.co.uk</a><br clear="none">> Cc: Ali Hussein <<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" shape="rect">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>><br clear="none">> Subject: Re: [kictanet] National ICT Policy Discussions: Day 9 of 10:<br clear="none">> Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> @Walu and all<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I have always find it very confusing to remember all the various players and<br clear="none">> their roles in the ICT Ministry. Might there be a justification to<br clear="none">> rationalize them? Like the process that the eGovernment Dept and the<br clear="none">> predecessor to the ICT Authority went through?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> The other issue is one of independence and confusion of the different<br clear="none">> players in the sector. We see the CA sometimes dabbling in policy and the<br clear="none">> Ministry in regulations. Sometimes the line is murky true..but we must<br clear="none">> endeavor to respect those roles.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> How does the policy address this issue?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Ali Hussein<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Principal<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Hussein & Associates<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> <a href="tel:%2B254%200713%20601113" target="_blank" value="+254713601113">+254 0713 601113</a> / 0770906375<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Twitter: @AliHKassim<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Skype: abu-jomo<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank" shape="rect">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what<br clear="none">> no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Sent from my iPad<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On 4 Jul 2016, at 8:58 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet<br clear="none">> <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" shape="rect">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank" shape="rect">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> ><br clear="none">> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Listers,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> @Barrack had introduced the above theme over the weekend but looks like<br clear="none">> folks were on a family day off. So agreed to have today to see if we can get<br clear="none">> views on this matter and then wrap up everthting tomorrow.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> ----<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Day 9 of 10: Institutional, Legal & Regulatory Framework<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Role of Regulator, USAC, CERTs, NCS, ICTA, PCK, CSO, Professional Bodies<br clear="none">> etc<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Needed Legislation, Data Protection, eTransaction, Intermediary Liability<br clear="none">> etc<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> The Background:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Now that we have discussed most of the issues, it is time to look at the<br clear="none">> governance framework for the same. Traditionally, the key governance actors<br clear="none">> have been the ICT Parliamentary Committees, the ICT Ministry, the National<br clear="none">> Communication Secretariate (NCS), the ICT regulator, the ICT Authority, the<br clear="none">> ICT (Multimedia) Appeals Tribunal,etc.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> The market players have been the Operators, Postal Agency, Courier Services,<br clear="none">> Application Service Providers.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Have these entities worked well for us or do we want to delete, add or<br clear="none">> restructures some of them? 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