<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think there’s definitely need for harmonisation. A good entry point would be the Council of Governors committee responsible for ICT. Being non-techies and already keenly aware of the development agenda they are implementing in the counties it would probably help to ‘de-silo’ the eGov conversation at the sub-national level. Thereafter convening the CECs for ICT together with their national government counterparts (Ministry and iCTA) into a policy forum would be create an opportunity to bring the public sector actors together to agree on harmonisation of standards, priority areas, timelines and to explore financing options. The CECs probably already convene under the CoG so there would be no creation of a new body as such. The input from the forum would be presented to the Intergovernmental Budget and Economic Council via the CoG Committee responsible for ICT and hopefully inform resource allocation down the chain.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Muchiri</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 1 Jul 2016, at 12:55 AM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" class="">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">@ Muchiri,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Many thanks for your intervention, how do we loop in structures at</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">county government level given the social and economic investment we</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">have made in the county governments through the devolution programme?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">is there need for harmonization?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On 6/29/16, Muchiri Nyaggah via kictanet <</span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">> wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Colleagues,<br class=""><br class="">I believe eGovernment suffers most when the silo mentality is not addressed<br class="">and when it is itself yet another silo. From the more mundane issues of lack<br class="">of interoperability at the hardware or software level to the unwillingness<br class="">of departments to collaborate across ministries due to perennial turf wars<br class="">and the disconnect between those in technology planning/acquisition and the<br class="">real world.<br class=""><br class="">For instance, Agriculture, Health, Education, Transport, ICT, Labor and<br class="">Finance have to coordinate. Nutrition sits in two ministries (Health and<br class="">Agriculture) and is affected by all the others. Agriculture relies on all<br class="">the others for infrastructure, human capital and financing while being<br class="">joined at the hip with the non-communicable diseases department of the<br class="">Ministry of Health. Policy guidance on government programming and<br class="">coordination therefore provides the state with a framework for<br class="">implementation of its development agenda and guidance for implementation and<br class="">support of eGovernment. Everything is interconnected/interdependent and that<br class="">acknowledgement should be evident in how eGovernment is implemented as well<br class="">as the sector strategic plans.<br class=""><br class="">The Kenyan government has made strides towards better coordination,<br class="">especially with the program-based budget approach and adherence to the<br class="">medium term planning framework but a lot more needs to be done to ensure<br class="">systems and personnel are on the same page as the those developing policy<br class="">for coordination and integration. With minimal political interference. One<br class="">way to make things better is to ensure those in the ICT Authority<br class="">responsible for eGovernment have a seat at the table in the Medium Term Plan<br class="">committee, the MTEF committee and the intergovernmental coordination<br class="">institutions like IBEC and the Intergovernmental Technical Relations<br class="">Committee.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">@muchiri<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 29 Jun 2016, at 10:56 AM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet<br class=""><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Barrack,<br class=""><br class="">This recognition ought to inform the policy decision to gear towards a<br class="">conscious mindset transformation that will entrench culture shift<br class="">alongside the other policies.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Tim<br class=""><br class="">On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" class="">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" class="">mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class="">Hi Timothy,<br class=""><br class="">Many thanks for your response. How can we actualize this from a policy<br class="">perspective?<br class=""><br class="">Regards<br class=""><br class="">On 6/29/16, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo <<a href="mailto:timoriedo@gmail.com" class="">timoriedo@gmail.com</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:timoriedo@gmail.com" class="">mailto:timoriedo@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Morning All,<br class=""><br class="">Its commendable that some of the government projects and initiatives<br class="">have<br class="">taken off, case in point is Huduma centre, which over and above<br class="">operating<br class="">in an E-platform, prides itself in customer service excellence which<br class="">goes a<br class="">long way in winning the public confidence.<br class=""><br class="">The question then is what makes is the barrier towards replicating the<br class="">success of such projects across the ecosystem?<br class=""><br class="">This one question if answered will provide a framework for the<br class="">implementation of a successful system across board.<br class=""><br class="">One key gap that sets us back is cultural in nature, the silo mentality<br class="">that Government departments operate in. To create a successful<br class="">ecosystem<br class="">there needs to be a shift. This cultural shift will not be won by<br class="">hardware<br class="">nor system installation but active engagement with the players to<br class="">shift<br class="">mindsets. This can then be followed up with policy regulation framework<br class="">to<br class="">funnel into singularity of purpose.<br class=""><br class="">Kind Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Timothy Oriedo<br class="">ICF Certified Coach, Chartered Marketer, Technology, Media & Telco<br class="">Enthusiast<br class="">FB, Linkedln- Timothy Oriedo<br class="">Skype, Twitter @timoriedo<br class="">0722 816171<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<br class=""><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" class="">mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>><br class="">wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Listers,<br class=""><br class="">Many thanks to those who have contributed to day 4 and day 5. The<br class="">threads are still open provided you respond under the correct thread.<br class="">We also encourage listers to edit the policy directly on the Jadili<br class="">platform<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://jadili.ictpolicy.org/docs/kenya-ict-policy" class="">http://jadili.ictpolicy.org/docs/kenya-ict-policy</a><br class=""><<a href="http://jadili.ictpolicy.org/docs/kenya-ict-policy" class="">http://jadili.ictpolicy.org/docs/kenya-ict-policy</a>>.<br class=""><br class="">Today we focus on the following topics:<br class=""><br class="">*eHealth, eAgriculture, eTransport, eGovt, eLearning<br class="">*ICT regional (county) incentives)<br class="">*ICTs in Society, Culture<br class=""><br class="">The Background<br class=""><br class="">Government is the single biggest consumers of ICT goods and services.<br class="">A highly digitised government operation not only improves transparency<br class="">and accountability but can accelerate ICT opportunities for the local<br class="">ICT enterprises dealing in software development, system integration,<br class="">equipment resellers amongst others.<br class=""><br class="">What are the bottlenecks around eGovernment? Other than Huduma<br class="">Centers, KRA and bit of NTSA, there seems to be very little ICTs in<br class="">other government departments and agencies. What poliices and<br class="">strategies can unlock the full potential of eGovt?<br class=""><br class="">Send in your views Today.<br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Barrack O. 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