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<div>Hi Mwendwa - maybe Collins was only using co.ke as an example, to ask the question whether it is possible to register second level rather than third-level domains on .ke because that could be a business idea????</div>
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<div>On Mon, Jun 27, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote:</div>
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On Jun 26, 2016 5:03 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br />
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> While at it… Ask if we can get root .ke domains instead of being restricted to .<a href="http://co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">co.ke</a> / .<a href="http://ac.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ac.ke</a> , I bet you can auction <a href="http://www.co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.co.ke</a> for loads of $$. J<br />
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<p dir="ltr">Collins, it's not possible to auction or even sell <a href="http://www.co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">.co.ke</a> because that domain is already delegate to KENIC, thus hosting all subdomains in that namespace</p>
<p dir="ltr">Here is the whois result for <a href="http://co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">co.ke</a> domain</p>
<p><span>EXR-PM1:~ mwendwa$ whois <a href="http://co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">co.ke</a></span><br />
Domain Name: <a href="http://co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">co.ke</a><br />
Domain ID: 3-KENIC<br />
WHOIS Server:<br />
Referral URL:<br />
Updated Date: 2016-05-29T08:55:03.029Z<br />
Creation Date: 2009-05-14T08:34:56.443Z<br />
Registry Expiry Date: 2016-05-14T08:34:56.426Z<br />
Sponsoring Registrar: root<br />
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID:<br />
Domain Status: ok<br />
Domain Status: serverHold<br />
Name Server: <a href="http://mzizi.kenic.or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mzizi.kenic.or.ke</a><br />
Name Server: <a href="http://ns1.coza.net.za" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ns1.coza.net.za</a><br />
DNSSEC: unsigned<br />
Additional Section<br />
Sponsoring Registrar URL:<br />
Sponsoring Registrar Address: P.O. Box 1461 Nairobi - 00606 Waiyaki Way<br />
Sponsoring Registrar Country: KE<br />
Sponsoring Registrar Phone:<br />
Sponsoring Registrar Fax:<br />
Sponsoring Registrar Customer Service Contact:<br />
Sponsoring Registrar Customer Service Email: <a href="mailto:registry@kenic.or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">registry@kenic.or.ke</a><br />
Sponsoring Registrar Admin Contact:<br />
Sponsoring Registrar Admin Email: <a href="mailto:registry@kenic.or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">registry@kenic.or.ke</a><br />
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-06-27T07:45:58.387Z <<<</p>
<p>All that said, there is poor design and name reservation list on the .ke namespace. For example, KENIC let <a href="http://www.co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.co.ke</a> be registered by some Chinese entity. Usually common URL identifiers in the .<a href="http://or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">or.ke</a> .<a href="http://co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">co.ke</a> .<a href="http://ne.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ne.ke</a> .<a href="http://me.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">me.ke</a> .<a href="http://go.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">go.ke</a> should be reserved in perpetuity. I wish KENIC can give a rational for this. For me I would have prefered <a href="http://www.co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer">www.co.ke</a> to redirect to <a href="http://www.kenic.or.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer">www.kenic.or.ke</a>. Here is the whois for <a href="http://www.co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.co.ke</a></p>
<p><span>EXR-PM1:~ mwendwa$ whois <a href="http://www.co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.co.ke</a></span><br />
Domain Name: <a href="http://www.co.ke" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.co.ke</a><br />
Domain ID: 42367-KENIC<br />
WHOIS Server:<br />
Referral URL:<br />
Updated Date: 2016-06-04T09:34:12.959Z<br />
Creation Date: 2011-07-09T05:29:07.701Z<br />
Registry Expiry Date: 2016-07-09T05:29:07.720Z<br />
Sponsoring Registrar: Webhost Kenya Ltd<br />
Domain Status: ok<br />
Registrant ID: 42366-KENIC<br />
Registrant Name: Guo Xiufeng<br />
Registrant Street: No.66 Yuhua Road<br />
Registrant Street: Hebei University of Science and Technology<br />
Registrant City: Shijiazhuang<br />
Registrant State/Province: Hebei<br />
Registrant Postal Code: 050000<br />
Registrant Country: CN<br />
Registrant Phone:<br />
Registrant Phone Ext:<br />
Registrant Email: <a href="mailto:showfom@gmail.com" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">showfom@gmail.com</a><br />
Name Server: <a href="http://pat.ns.cloudflare.com" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">pat.ns.cloudflare.com</a><br />
Name Server: <a href="http://phil.ns.cloudflare.com" defang_rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">phil.ns.cloudflare.com</a><br />
DNSSEC: unsigned<br />
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-06-27T07:54:42.641Z <<<<br />
% Copyright KENIC</p>
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<p>On registering domains on the .ke root, that may be possible after stakeholder consultations, and change of the current regulations that govern the .ke root. This has been debated for decades, and where we stand currently, there is a possibility the community will allow that to go on. Here is the current .ke regulations <a href="http://www.kenyalaw.org/LegalNotices/pop_ln.php?file=453" defang_rel="noreferrer">http://www.kenyalaw.org/LegalNotices/pop_ln.php?file=453</a></p>
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<p>Sincerely, </p>
<p>Mwendwa Kivuva</p>
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