<p dir="ltr">Outdated yes. But emerging disruptive businsses even outside the US are still going for .com . So at least they do not think so :D</p>
<p dir="ltr">Il give a good example of SoundCloud. Its a German business that had a global perspective in mind. They could dare say theyd tackle the global market and they did.</p>
<p dir="ltr">So to me principally attitude matters. The very fact that we believe we can not start with gTLDs is shooting ourselves in the foot and degrading ourselves automatically </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 4 Jun 2016 10:32 am, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Tony/Ahmed</div><div><br></div><div>The notion that .coms are the only ones suited to global digital business is an outdated one. Seriously.</div><div><br></div><div>Just do <a href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google.com</a> and see if it won't redirect you to the local .<a href="http://co.ke" target="_blank">co.ke</a>. The point is that ccTLDs have a place in the global space. It just means we have to work that harder to get it recognized in that space.</div><div><br></div><div>It's also true that you are more likely to get your name/brand available on ccTLD than on gTLDs..<br><br><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">+254 0713 601113 </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 4 Jun 2016, at 8:55 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Actually Tony, KeNIC is at 58362 which is a good milestone.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I think the moment we successfully brand our nation as a</span><br><span>business/tourist destination our TLD will be able to compete</span><br><span>effectively with the gTLD's. Look at South Africa, anything South</span><br><span>Africa looks cool , no wonder they have 1,046,266 names.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Whichever the methodology, TCRA got people talking about .TZ, KeNIC</span><br><span>got us talking about .Ke, this is the way to go, with Strong and</span><br><span>sustainable institutions in Our Internet Industry we will get better</span><br><span>services and a more educated community.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thank you</span><br><span></span><br><span>Best Regards</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 6/4/16, Tony White via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>At the time KENIC took over responsibility for the .ke namespace from</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Randy Bush, there were less than 1000 registered domains. KENIC has</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>marketed .ke to the extent that we now have over 52,000 registered</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>domains - and KENIC is ambitiously aiming at 1 million domains.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tanzania should follow the same route - and NOT 'force' the issue in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the hope of making 'a quick buck'. It is human nature to resist</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>anything we are 'forced' to do, especially where we see no benefit.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Local companies, targeting locals, should have a local domain - and in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kenya KENIC has achieved this purely through successful marketing -</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>eg. online stores have .ke domain names.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On the other hand, local companies targetting the international market</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>would be best served by a .com or other GTLD. After all, that's why we</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>have GTLDs in the first place!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The main issue here is *choice* - and yes, it would be a good idea to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>include an *option* on new company registrations to simultaneously</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>register a .ke domain - and as company registrations are moving</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>online, this will be a relatively easy thing to accomplish - KENIC</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>take note ;)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Have a good weekend, everybody,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tony</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 04/06/2016, Wangari Kabiru via kictanet</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Blessed Saturday!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I would appreciate insights here in light of this TZ position.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Such a requirement, might;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a. It be aligned to nationalism; buy Kenya, build Kenya (herein TZ)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Brand Kenya promotion too</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>b. Does a .KE give greater control to law enforcement e.g incase of email</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>trail investigations, money trail or such. Or it doesn't matter whether</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>.COM, .NZ</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>c. Would this possibly make the .KE at some point to become a freebie when</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>you register a business in Kenya - incentive</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>d. The global space and business is now virtual. In attempting to quantify</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the import-export values virtually, what is the revenue paid out for the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>non</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>.KE domains annually. What would be retained if they were .KE?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you for the enlightenment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Blessed weekend.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Regards/WangariOn Jun 3, 2016 10:40, Ali Hussein via kictanet</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Listers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Interesting developments from our neighbors. Something to emulate or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>should we leave the choice to enterprise and individuals?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Ali Hussein</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Principal</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hussein & Associates</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>+254 0713 601113</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Skype: abu-jomo</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Begin forwarded message:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: "Mohsin from Extreme Web Technologies Ltd"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:support@extremewebtechnologies.com" target="_blank">support@extremewebtechnologies.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: 3 June 2016 at 10:12:00 AM EAT</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: "Ali Hussein" <<a href="mailto:Ali.Hussein@campusciti.com" target="_blank">Ali.Hussein@Campusciti.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: TCRA to enforce use of .tz domain names</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Reply-To: "Mohsin from Extreme Web Technologies Ltd"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:support@extremewebtechnologies.com" target="_blank">support@extremewebtechnologies.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Ali</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA) published a public</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>notice in the Daily News on 1st June, 2016 that reminds us that all</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>business entities registered in the country should have and use dot(.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>tz</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>domain names.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The notice stated that this requirement is in order to comply with the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>regulatory requirements and to contribute to the national revenue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>However, the notice does not give a deadline to do so or limit the use</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>other domain endings. Therefore we assume that if you own a .com, .net,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>.org, or any other domain ending then you are required to register a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>respective .tz domain name.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Extreme Web Technologies is the top performing accredited registrar of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>tzNIC. The price of domain registration for .TZ is TZS 25,000/- per</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>annum. If you are using a .com, .net, .org or any other extensions,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>please get in touch with us so we can assist you to acquire your .TZ</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>domain and setup the redirections if required. You can continue using</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>your current domain name for your email communications.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Here is the full public notice as published by the Daily News:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Best Regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mohsin Sumar,&nbs</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tony White</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>kictanet mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unsubscribe or change your options at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>regulation. 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